“ Said R. Jeremiah: "It is like tannaim": "He who smooths with grapes, it was not qualified. R. Judah says: It was qualified." Aren't they arguing about this? One sage maintains: "beverages when mixed with eatables are regarded as eatables", and one sage maintains: "they are not regarded as eatables".
Said R. Papa: "The whole world maintains: beverages when mixed with eatables are not regarded as eatables. And here they are arguing about beverages that go to waste. One sage maintains: they are regarded as beverages, and one sage maintains: they are not regarded as beverages." ”

“ The herbs may be pressed on the Sabbath, for use on the Sabbath and not later, providing he uses the herbs for eating; but if he wishes to use the juice he may not do so, but if he does he is not liable [for a sin-offering] ; and cooked herbs he may squeeze out, whether he requires the herbs or the juice; and olives and grapes he should not press; and if he did press them, he is liable for a sin-offering. Samuel explains it according to his own opinion: A man may squeeze out herbs on the Sabbath for the Sabbath, [but not for later use] ”