House of Lords

“ I think they would like it too, because they like even the bad People now. I think they would like Gentlemen. Would you like New Zealand to be under English Laws, that if a Man killed another, he should be punished as he is in England?
People like me do not understand, but the Children who are taught to read would like English People, and would like that. Would you like all your Cookees to be made no Cookees, but free?
No. If I were to die then they would be free, but not while I live. If a New Zealander kills a Man does the Chief kill him? ”

“ If I go to New Zealand I put off English Clothes, because they will be soon worn out, and I cannot get others; but if I am with English People I wear English Clothes. Do you think the other New Zealand People would do so too?
I think so; that they would like them. Do you think if a Captain told a New Zealander he would give him Powder or Blankets to bring back a runaway Sailor he would do it?
If a Man were to run away, if a Captain came and offered Powder, or Musket, or a Blanket, the Chief would go and bring the Man back again for it. Are there not a great many Whites where you live? ”

“ When Men came with Irons on their Legs to New Zealand did the New Zealand People understand what that was for?
They know they were bad Men. There are Slaves whom you call Cookees there, are there not?
Yes; I have a Cookee. A Cookee's Child is not a Cookee?
No. I have a Cookee; if he marries a Gentlewoman the Child is a Gentleman, and no Cookee. Cookees are Prisoners of War?
Yes. Are there many Cookees belonging to your Tribe?
Yes. My Tribe is not a very large Tribe, but many Cookees; they have been in many Countries. Your Tribe have many War Canoes? ”