“ If you want to start a conversation about Parsoid and Wikisource, I'd start by emailing the Wikitech-l mailing list, and if you get no reply, reaching out directly to the people working on Parsoid. For this particular idea, let me just say that I advise against having a critical interface element generated in half by an extension, and in half by wikitext. It seems like a good way to end up with something you can never change again without breaking the whole site for a while, because you can't synchronize changes in wikitext and changes in the extension. ”

“ This is pretty standard for websites, especially with user-generated content, and works well. What's biting us here is the nightmare that is HTML table layout, where web browsers have several decades worth of hacky special-casing and guesswork—different for every browser engine—and very little in the way of standardisation. ”

“ Each distinct selectable layout is at heart just a set of CSS style rules. Because our texts contain certain elements that should not be subjected to these layout rules (the header, maintenance templates, authority control, license tags, etc.) , the Gadget has to identify these and hoist them out of the layout containers. That is, it is guessing what parts of the page is part of the text and what parts are something else.
This approach has all sorts of problems. Wrapping with the extra elements after the page has been rendered forces the browser to relayout the page. ”

“ Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
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The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 11 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 12 October. It will be on all wikis from 13 October (calendar) . On some wikis, Kartographer maps in full size view will be able to display nearby articles. After a feedback period, more wikis will follow. Tech news prepared by Tech News writers and posted by bot • Contribute • Translate • Get help • Give feedback • Subscribe or unsubscribe. ”

“ Starting on Wednesday October 26, 2022, the list of mentors will be upgraded at wikis where Growth mentorship is available. The mentorship system will continue to work as it does now. The signup process will be replaced, and a new management option will be provided. Also, this change simplifies the creation of mentorship systems at Wikipedias. ”

“ It will be on all wikis from 3 November (calendar) . The maps dialog in VisualEditor now has some help texts. It is now possible to select the language of a Kartographer map in VisualEditor via a dropdown menu. ”

“ Until someone automates it to an agreed spot, it is a manual process. It is not all author namespace pages, as we don't do it author subpages. It is not entirely difficult to manage petscan:638981 or user:billinghurst/petscan:638981. It is hardly time critical. Noting that I will also do sanity checks and tidy ups, which are often needed as many seem to escape the notice of the community at their time of creation. ”

“ Similarly, the reuse of fair-use court briefs would also have to be in line with copyright law—it’s just that this time, it would be U.S. fair use standards. TE (æ) A,ea. (talk) 13:57, 11 November 2022 (UTC) we have a community that disdains fair use as non free, i.e. the right to profit is more important than the dissemination of knowledge. fair use is not a copyright violation: all the federal judges say so, but ease of use of open knowledge from behind the paywall does not matter. as we know, references in open wikipedia gets cited in briefs more often in Irish courts. ”

“ And the lack of active maintenance means technical improvements that would benefit us immensely are near impossible to get traction for. I therefore encourage everyone to sign this open letter and support any effort to get the WMF to allocate more resources to Commons and the multimedia stack. ”

“ I would very much appreciate hearing whether you would find the mandatory use of a {{footer}} template (like {{header}}) a) acceptable, b) unacceptable, c) "don't care, stop bugging me", d) "other". It'd be an "empty" template, so no need to fiddle parameters and such, but you would need to add it to the end of every mainspace page (or have a bot come add it afterwards) so it is one more thing to keep track of. Xover (talk) 08:40, 13 November 2022 (UTC) Allowing for fair use for non-PD-USGov court briefs In looking around copyright-related court cases, I came upon White v. ”

“ I would also note that briefs filed by the U.S. government are always and automatically in the public domain, and briefs filed by U.S. state governments are probably also automatically in the public domain. BD2412 T 08:32, 14 November 2022 (UTC) Oppose I am not certain how we can claim "fair use" when we are just regurgitating another's work verbatim without some context around its re-use. ”

“ The sooner "someone who understands Wikisource" starts talking to "someone who understands Parsoid" the more time there'll be to fix things, and the more scope there'll be for finding pragmatic solutions. Xover (talk) 13:29, 3 November 2022 (UTC) Yes, it's definitely worthwhile. Matma Rex (talk) 16:18, 3 November 2022 (UTC) I am a little unclear about how how we are thinking about handling 1. Transcluded content footers (e.g. the rule with printer information we sometime see on the last page of a text) 2. ”

“ Wikisource:Works/2022 Wikisource:Works/2022 only goes up to April. Is something broken? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing) ; Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:38, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
It looks like Template:New texts/data/2022.json last had data imported on 1 May 2022. @Inductiveload presumably knows more about how this all works? —CalendulaAsteraceae (talk • contribs) 05:26, 31 October 2022 (UTC) It was supposed to be a system that would allow automatic ingestion from Template:New texts/data/2022.json, processing, and presentation (e.g. permitting a Twitter/IRC/Matrix bot) and so on. ”