“ My understanding is that much of the Author information was taken by bot. There was also some kind of bot import of many of our main namespace works, but not a complete one and there have been many problems spotted. I tend to work on items by hand, but then I'm doing a lot of cleanup at both ends, primarily in a small and highly specialized set of works (ancient Greek drama) .
A few challenges I've come across in Greek drama, which would make a bot difficult or impossible:
(1) Data items require a unique label and description. You cannot duplicate them from item to item. ”

“ If you find other editors ignore the Index discussion page, ask them to pay attention to it. If someone is intentionally ignoring the Index discussion page, revert their edits. But I think most things can be sorted out without reverting disruptive edits. Talk. By the way, when I view most sidenotes, they look like crap in Page space, but fine in Mainspace. This might be my browser, my screen size, my screen resolution, my side-by-side horizontal editing preference in Wikisource... or whatever. Who knows? The technology is complex. ”

“ When the translations are published as part of a series, and each volume was published in a different year, you then have a data item for the overall title, data items for each volume, data items for each play, etc. And if the multi-volume set has been printed in more edition, each edition of each work, and volume, and play, gets a data item. This becomes a headache. These are just the issues that come to mind immediately. ”

“ Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
The visual editor can generate wikicode with image options in your language. Examples of image options are "thumb" or "left". You can ask to change to options in your language in Phabricator. Wiktionaries and Wikisources can now use the visual editor. It is an opt-in beta feature. It still needs development to work better with these projects. ORES is using new models. Tools that use ORES' predictions can behave strangely. ORES also has a new API. The visual editor now supports classical Greek characters. ”

“ I'm new around here; as a way of finding out about Wikisource I've enjoyed contributing to the current Proofread of the Month. However I'm confused about an aspect of style:
Should apostropes be of this form: Hanuman’s or this form: Hanuman's? Does it depend on the usage of the text? Same question for quotation marks (single and double) . The style guide seems to encourage straight quotes, but in the PotM I've seen others leave in the curly quotes/apostrophes rendered by the OCR. At first I changed things to straight, but after observing others I have stopped doing so. ”

“ Slightly OT, the hard work of adapting the visual editor to Wikisource is mainly led by volunteers User:Coren and User:Tpt who would certainly benefit from direct feedback about what's working and what you'd like to see improved. Thanks! As a reminder—this wiki features a Single Edit Tab system; if you're not sure you know or remember how that works, you can read the guide (which details, among other things, how to switch between editors from the buttons on the toolbar) ; you can change your editing settings at any time, by the way. ”

“ We never act like the edition information matters to us; it's at Pollyanna, and that page says nothing about the edition besides reproducing the title page. What are the differences between the Gutenberg copy and our copy? If we care about the versions, that's check number one. Once we know that, it may be easy to find a matching scan in Google Books or HathiTrust. ”

“ Anyone noticed that Wikisource uses a Wikipedia "Cite this page" tool? Here's the opening blurb....
IMPORTANT NOTE: Most educators and professionals do not consider it appropriate to use tertiary sources such as encyclopedias as a sole source for any information—citing an encyclopedia as an important reference in footnotes or bibliographies may result in censure or a failing grade. Wikipedia articles should be used for background information, as a reference for correct terminology and search terms, and as a starting point for further research.... ”

“ We are not where scholars go when they need to look up the First Folio, we are where students and average people go when they want to look up Shakespeare. Shakespeare, in particular, is bad for going to the oldest source texts, since there are several early texts that modern editions depend on for a best copy. ”

“ Algerian law generally provides that "works of the state lawfully made available to the public can be freely used for non-commercial purposes subject to respect for the integrity of the work and the indication of the source". ”

“ For the Antarctic Voyage Flora we started in a PotM a couple of years back, I've done it differently and transcluded the volume of images separately, but done wikilinks on the plate mentions in the text volume. In the end I don't think there is a single right way to do the transclusion for all works. Each work needs to be evaluated on it needs to best represent it as a work in the mainspace. ”

“ Creating another kind of user isn't necessary. Anyone can nominate, anyone can comment, and anyone can help tidy up nominations that need it. The only bit requiring admin tools is dropping the selection into the Main page templates, and that isn't the need at this time. ”

“ I would prefer adding the volume in the main namespace link as I think it helps navigating to the source and also in ordering of the chapters. As for transclusion I think that would be best left to the people working on each individual work, since each individual work is different in nature and some work better being kept as separate volumes and others would work better being joined. ”

“ You can go between read, unread or all notifications on Special:Notifications. Notifications on Special:Notifications are grouped by day. You can mark every daily group as read individually. Notifications are displayed by groups of 50 on Special:Notifications and you can find former notifications by using navigation arrows. Changes this week
You can filter user contributions to hide minor edits. It will be easier to edit galleries with the visual editor. The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 June. ”

“ There will be occasions where we step outside the strictures of a work, and our guidance, and where we can explain why it is the case, and the community does not have issues with the plan, it has been acceptable in our history. ”

“ Just to note that I'm gradually reducing the Ante-Nicene Fathers display complexity at least one level as I proofread the first edition under Ante-Nicene Christian Library. The ANF was put in by a bot and there are some strange paginations in places.My thoughts on the wider issue is that we need to make reading the works sensible for the end-user. In the Music Dictionary there is an article split between Volume 3 and 4. I'm not going to transclude the two parts on to separate pages, but will put them on the same page. Hrishikes approach to the Indian Flora is a sensible one. ”

“ Old not-quite guidelines hanging around simply end up confusing newcomers, and end up pitting some of the old-timers against one another too especially if the two sides of the argument are taking different policy/guidelines as true. ”

“ Disambiguation pages that are {{versions}} pages (for English works or translations into English) and {{translations}} pages (for works not in English) are considered to be the work itself and are linked to the Wikidata items for that work. As an example, consider Bible (d:Q1845) , a collection of religious books in Hebrew and Greek, and Authorized King James Version (d:Q623398) , one of many translations of that collection into English. Regular texts in mainspace are considered editions of the work and are not the work itself. ”

“ The Portal itself is intended to be exhaustive, and is much longer than most Author pages.. But a Portal is likely not a good comparison, since each Portal has the freedom to include or exclude content, and to be structured in any way that is convenient. Our Authors pages need to follow a reasonably consistent format for the sake of our users. --EncycloPetey (talk) 05:43, 23 April 2016 (UTC) Having tables adds an element of complexity and isn't for every user. — billinghurst sDrewth 04:14, 22 April 2016 (UTC) @Billinghurst: It does, but it can be made easier by using a template. ”

“ Most Projects are not as large as Commons or Wikipedia. For Wikisource (and most other non-pedia projects) posting to the central community discussion page will reach everyone. --EncycloPetey (talk) 17:50, 17 April 2016 (UTC) Hi @EncycloPetey:, thanks. I'm not sure I believe this -- I think I did several years of Wikisource work before ever looking at the Scriptorium, and I have never checked it anywhere near as often as I look at my Watchlist. ”

“ I keep getting confused trying to counsel newbies who have wikitext editor, but want VE, and have to find the small pencil (whatever that means) . or pushing the "combined button", to get to wikitext. it affects you here, if you are experimenting with VE in article space. they keep thrashing the interface, maybe one day they will settle on something so we can train on it. Slowking4 01:46, 17 May 2016 (UTC) EncycloPetey, Outlier59, the message will say "Welcome to Wikisource" here of course. ”

“ If the "work" level exists, I will connect to it, and sometimes I will create the "work" level, often I simply won't bother. — billinghurst sDrewth 04:27, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
Thanks everyone for your responses. It's kinda reassuring to understand that, indipendently, many of us think about this the very same way. My plan for Italian Wikisource is doing what billinghurst does: working with just the editions' while figuring out the meta-level. On it.source, though, we use a similar template for {{versions}}, but in a dedicated namespace, Opera (means Work) . ”

“ Having finally gotten around to looking at some of your detail edits I have to admit some of the Greek diacritic issues are well beyond my limited abilities (though in general please note this work uses Latin phi (φ) not modern Greek phi (φ) .) May I recommend consulting with either Beeswaxcandle or EncycloPetey, both of whom are likely to be far more confident in this area?Oh, and please be aware that {{small-caps}} (a.k.a. {{sc}}) is only effective upon content containing lowercase. ”

“ If Wikisource isn't providing any useful service by transcribing pages from raw OCR to accurate text versions, I agree the citation link should be removed altogether. Someone can simply cite the djvu page number from the Internet Archives file page scans without mentioning Wikisource. This discussion belongs at MediaWiki:Citethispage-content. I suggest move this discussion there. That probably takes an Admin, but I don't know. Outlier59 (talk) 00:10, 27 May 2016 (UTC) Tech News: 2016-21
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. ”

“ The text returned by EditFormPreloadText. See API module "info". Application: on Wikisource wikis, text can be preloaded even if a page does not exist, if an Index page is present. """ If you want, I can write few lines of code for you. Or if you tell me the index, I can do it for you.— Mpaa (talk) 20:53, 13 April 2016 (UTC) @Mpaa: with djvu going out of vogue with IA, it seems pertinent for pywikibot to look to having "pdftxt" script that replicates "djvutxt". Then we have the general purpose bot available through the WSes. ”

“ The edition/translation policies are applied inconsistently, depending upon the person enacting any change. There is much room for improvement. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:49, 31 May 2016 (UTC) Aubrey. It is a complex mix, and every time I try to write it up it just becomes a PITA in which I lose patience with it, and go back to transcribing. The short plain vanilla version is
every published transcription is an edition, and should have a WD entry for the edition there is a project page at WD that shows the components to add for an edition if you hack away at that level you cannot go far wrong. ”

“ I do intend to go ahead and transclude them, but they will be a step up from what is already in mainspace, so... it's not going to be any worse, lol. 2602:304:CEEB:4D60:C0EE:C65F:5D42:C37F 02:41, 28 June 2016 (UTC) @AuFCL: In a Greek text, the difference between "Latin" phi and "Greek" phi is a matter of typeface. Just like the difference between the lowercase Roman "a" that has a short curved ascending top versus the one that is a round letter without a "hat" of any kind. Always use the phi from the Greek character set of Unicode within a Greek text. ”

“ Some are just for maintaining works, thus no need to break down, but some others should be broken down, better by bots. For example, PD-old‏‎, and Author-PD-old‏‎‏‎ should better be broken down by era with new copyright licenses, like {{Ancient}}{{Medieval}}{{Renaissance}}. ”

“ Until we have a version, to which we attribute value, and DP/Gutenberg does not, I think that this is going to be a repeating issue. Solutions are better than repeated problems. — billinghurst sDrewth 07:10, 5 May 2016 (UTC) DP does care. It is true that books like Pollyanna, which are early PG works, don't have edition information. Mind you, we're not really doing much better; Wikipedia claims that File:Pollyanna (Eleanor Porter book) first edition cover.jpg is the first edition cover, but that's not the cover of the edition we used ”