A. P. Sinnett

“ There is some responsibility on the part of the user that if he has content he likes on a particular project, it might be good to occasionally come by and lurk the relevant discussion pages to see if anything's taken place. Even if you only did it once a month, that's only twelve times where you'll be spending up to an hour tops to see what is going on in the discussion world of WS.
For some odd reason, Wikibooks has agreed to take some reference material. ”

“ I mean, what we want could take over a year to be actually implemented, and waiting will not be fun for those Wikisourcerors who are currently active in a given Bible project. So, having a template with a parser function will give us two things: (1) We can actually present the selected verses that we want, and (2) when our feature request is implemented, it will be very easy to switch from the use of a template to an actual partial page transclusion (a bot could probably do it) . ”

“ I don't know...I personally do not think that every single page needs to appear the same in presentation (i.e., certain groups of "special" pages can appear differently than the rest of the pages) although I do understand and am slightly sympathetic toward the arguments for site-wide standardization. I think I just got used to how the current template looks that I notice the differences for any proposed changes. I would like there to be a bit more real estate used up at top; the template just seems so...short. How would it look if we added the sister-project interwiki links up there? ”

“ I don't see why we can't upload what we wish in a manner that Commons will be happy with. The scans could be put on wikisource.org as part of a new book scanning project; if Commons will not collaborate with us. However we will need to setup WS.org with the coding Commons already has to allow transclusion of these pages for the set-up being used for "in progress" texts (ie A Treatise on Electricity and Magnetism: Volume I/028) . In that case we should keep all our images and sound files on WS.org as well since it will be set-up for it. ”

“ We've simplified this transwiki'ing process by deciding to list reference data for deletion in batches over an estimated 13-week period. With minimal effort, this allows users from other projects to check Proposed deletions once a week for interesting pages. If you know of any community or WikiProject that may be interested, please do notify them; any page that a community expresses interest in is removed from the proposed deletions. Alternately, you could propose a Wikireference project on Meta and move pages to the Wikimedia Incubator. ”

“ While I prefer the existing author template and think we should stick with it. I have to say I prefer Quoth's proposed change to Pathoschild's. Mainly as it is clearly distinguishable from the header we use for actual texts, though I do think the biog bit needs to be inside the coloured box. I've never been a big fan of images on author pages, I think if you want them it's easy enough to check commons or wikipedia. ”

“ I use a free program call IrfanView for my image viewing, and it loads DjVu format just fine. I haven't looked much into conversion, but there are a few web-based conversion tools (to convert images to DjVu) and a few command-line programs to convert them from DjVu to other formats (TIFF, JPEG, and a few others) . I think if we clearly point out where a decent browser plugin is, we should use the DjVu plugin, especially if we are going to do a lot of book scanning (harddrive space on WM servers unfortunately isn't infinite) . ”

“ I want to propose a variant of Jude's template. —Antireconciler 18:27, 10 July 2006 (UTC) Poll I'd vote for Pathoschild's my template, of course. ;) An author page is essentially an index of works by a given author, and is integrated into the larger Index. It shouldn't be formatted in a drastically different way than the overall Index or the index of fiction. My proposal natively integrates the standard {{header}}, and shifts the focus from the authors themselves to their works, much as the emphasis in the index of fiction is fictional works, not fiction itself. ”

“ We will hopefullly be seeing a surge of interest in Wikisource around then so we need to really get the infastructure set up and spare ourselves the clean-up later. I have an idea how I want poems set up as I have outlined. I have less firm ideas about other genres. I am sure others have firm ideas about thier favorite areas. I think we should get consensus on what we are certain we want, without setting out every possibility. Next we work to get what we agreed on categorized. Then run a bot to see what is left uncategorized. ”

“ The coolest thing possible to do with this would be to link all versions of a verse in each language with each other, as in Bible/Obadiah/1/2. But if we do that automatically, then the number of pages in Hebrew Wikisource will become meaningless. Even in English the number would jump by tens of thousands.
Possible options:
Who cares? Wikipedia doubled when articles on US towns were added by a bot, but eventually that didn't matter anymore. Find a technical solution that would avoid counting pages added automatically. Put pages on individual verses and such in a separate namespace. ”

“ I had thought that as Hacienda created List of Acts of Parliament of the English Parliament to 1600 it would just be used, minus table & wikipedia stuff, as a listing page (possibly moved to Wikisource:Legislative documents/England) providing links to all the Acts once they get their own pages under their own names (Eg Court of First Fruits and Tenths Act 1540, Buying of Hides Act 1549, etc) . ”

“ Has something changed to make the software collapse multiple instances of any type of space into a single space? See the template's use at Wikisource:Scriptorium/Archives/2006/04#{{indent}}, for example, and look at the HTML source of that section. You can see (I hope) that the server isn't even spitting out em-spaces (not the entities, anyway, and not multiple instances of them) . See also the discussion at Template talk:Indent about the best way of implementing the intended effect. I get the feeling most people aren't seeing what's intended. ”

“ World Clock Please can anyone tell me where on Wikipedia I can find information pertaining to the World Clock. I need the time zones specifically across America and those across the Soviet Union. Thank you. I don't know how this will be treated but here is my private email address if it is required: . I am not a computer whiz-kid and I am too old to learn now so, a reply to my email address, if possible or, exactly how I get to the correct page on Wikipedia would suit me just fine. Thank you. ”

“ An argument could be made that mathematical data belongs in Wikicommons because it is, or potentially can be, language neutral. Or perhaps there should be a new Wikireference project. Computer source code deserves a separate discussion, since there are so many other open source code repositories available.
At this point hundreds of articles have been marked for deletion. See Category:Deletion requests/Reference data Some material has apparently aready been deleted. There is nothing left in Category:Mathematics. ”

“ Disambiiguate both versions by the year of translation as Journey to the Center of the Earth (18XX) . Have A Journey into the Interior of the Earth as a redirect to the Journey to the Center of the Earth (18XX) but list the title as A Journey into the Interior of the Earth within the Header and talk about this discrepancy in the notes. Have the Disambiguation page list the one as Journey to the Center of the Earth (18XX) and the other as A Journey into the Interior of the Earth and talk about the discrepancy in the notes there. ”

“ That said, placing the audio recordings on Commons is probably the best thing to do, as it might be interesting for other projects to link to it if it helps them. And if InstantCommons ever gets off the ground, people all over the world will have access to it. ”

“ Hopefully, most governments will allow you to publish their material online, but I'm sure some will not.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 23:30, 29 June 2006 (UTC) The issue of copyright in the U.S., is squarely a policy set by the federal government--if the copyright office's policy is that no U.S. State or local government "edicts" can be copyrighted, than they squarely cannot be (because they are the arbiters of that policy) . On the other hand, if such edicts are copyrightable, then every single edict-type document would have to be verified. Currently there are 29 State Constitutions on Wikisource ”

“ Note that there are many active projects pages in mathematics and the sciences where such people might be found.
There was also no discussion of methods for reducing the load on editors, such as locking material after review. In general, reference material does not need or benefit from frequent edits.
I certainly respect the efforts of the regular editors on Wikisource and agree that their views should be shown some deference. However the process they chose is not sufficient. ”

“ Please speak up here Jude if I am wrong. I like the index a great deal, but people coming over from other projects are expecting categories. Look through the archives of this page and you will see newcomers stopping by to tell us we need to get things categorized. [ [Wikisource:Scriptorium/Archives/2005-12-31#Desperate_Need_for_Categorization| [1] ] Mainly I would like to know if anyone else has ideas on how they would like a subset of categories orderd (Rather than an entire top-down category tree) . ”

“ The problem with the original suggestion is such advertisement would atract people who have no understanding of existing practice. That is my concern. I feel anyone familar with existing practice will be aware of policy disscussion through the normal in-project channels.
The deletions are proceeding slowly and carefully with any wanted info being moved to other sites. There were no mass deltions on April 29th. If you can find a home for anything we could not I will restore the pages for your access, please give me a list. ”

“ Do whatever's easiest, I say. Jude (talk) 12:39, 20 June 2006 (UTC) Be warned if you upload them to Commons. People don't really like the idea of scanned books. I've gotten into a debate about WS adding scanned books (of course, the scans were not personally done but were from a German database) . But I get the feeling the sentiment is still roughly along the lines of "Wait...how can Wikipedia use this? It can't...Delete!" At least here we've got control over the pages. But it doesn't matter, I peruse Commons almost daily to make sure nothing useful for Wikisource is nixed. ”

“ So this is also my ulterior motive for all the category and index talk, as I will be showing off the project myself at Wikimania. For everyone with geography issues, apply for the scholarships. The fact that there are few Wikisource related attendees might be in your favor (although I know nothing in particular) . The money will be spent to help someone attend in any case, why not someone from Wikisource?--BirgitteSB 14:39, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
Automatic archivation Hi all! I've finally perservered and gotten User:Xenophon (bot) to be able to automatically archive sections of the Scriptorium. ”

“ We have no stewards here, so I think that we have to apply at meta:Requests for permissions. I would like to have importing privilege.--Jusjih 02:08, 10 July 2006 (UTC) Import privileges appear to be a purely temporary thing. I believed that the developers had to enable the interface before the permission could be assigned, but I'm perhaps incorrect about this matter. As it is, User:Danny is a sysop and also a steward. The steward policy restricts stewards from desysop'ing unless by request, but as this is simply a matter of import permission, I'm not sure there's an issue with it... ”

“ This means that some research is in order (I agree with you that we cannot guarantee the copyright status of a lot of our current state legislation) to determine what we can and cannot host from a given state. One of the best (or most efficient) might be to contact the Copyright Office, as they have about nine billion documents regarding copyright, so surely one of them would have which states copyright their works and which release them into the public domain.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 14:34, 30 June 2006 (UTC) Image Policy Does anyone know of a policy about cleaning up scanned images. ”

“ The more we have done in regards to infastructure the more likely we can absorb the influx into the community rather than be absorbed by it. This is all pure speculation, but the work will still need doing in any case. So it would be nice to have it done by Wikimania. Illy you have done more for the consistancy of of this project than most (certainly more than me) , so I would certainly appreciate your input on these ideas.--BirgitteSB 17:47, 7 June 2006 (UTC) Well, I have one major problem with the categories, they don't keep pages off of the orphaned pages reports. ”