HTML

“ What's happening is that the wikimarkup that we write (and of which the contents of templates are part) is first parsed by MediaWiki and turned into HTML, and that HTML is then sent to the web browser that re-parses it and renders it to the user. When MediaWiki parses the wikitext it applies heuristic rules to account for the differences between what humans write and what HTML requires, in this case regarding paragraphs in text. Humans separate paragraphs with two newlines, but HTML requires a paragraph to surrounded by

...

tags. ”

“ The same editor that you used to create your text will also create your HTML. HTML is just text, with two types of special instructions added: tags and entities.
A tag is an instruction to the browser, usually to display something with specific rules. Tags are shown within angled brackets: for example,

is the instruction to start a new paragraph.
An entity is a named special character that might not be available in your character set. Entities are shown starting with an ampersand "&" and ending with a semi-colon ";" : for example, — is the representation of an em-dash. ”

“ We should provide some kind of World Wide Web-based interface to HTML versions of our works, so that users are able to display those works in a popular application called a Web browser. As I understand it, all modern Web browsers offer their users complete control over the key points of layout, such as font size and page width. Apparently it is trivial to change these things in your Web browser, and the Web browser will respond by laying out the text in accordance with your settings, wrapping lines at just the right places, and even justifying the text for you if you want! ”

“ And then instead of doing this with JavaScript after page load, we use {{header}} to insert the start tag for the main content area and a new {{footer}} template to insert the end tag. This would eliminate all the repaints, obviate the need to move elements around in the DOM, and do the core of the layout functionality using HTML and CSS (robust, predictable, handled by the web browser) instead of coding it ourselves. ”

“ I think we need input from someone who understands HTML design. We want to make sure Google can find our pages. Maybe it would be possible to imbed data from the {{Author:Template}} in the HTML page in such a way that it would not be visible to a human user but would be to a search engine. If I remember correctly there was a way to imbed data in a header that old time web crawlers looked at even when they didn't look at very much else in a page. If some one has a personal Wiki maybe they to do some experiments to see how the Wiki search engine would do. ”

“ At this point, you actually have a valid HTML file! OK, if you view it with a browser, it doesn't look anything like the way it's supposed to, but it is HTML. Save it with a name like MYFILE1.HTM or STEP1.HTM and get a copy of Tidy for your DOS, Unix, Mac or Windows system from . Run Tidy on your file, telling it just to look for errors (tidy -e if running from a command-line; if you're using a GUI version, there should me a menu option or tickbox for showing errors only) . Tidy should tell you that there are no errors. ”

“ Just as the interlinking power of the World Wide Web sucked all available documents into its maw—encouraging people to digitize them, convert them into HTML, give them a URL, and put them on the Internet (hell, as we speak Google is even doing this to entire libraries) —the programmable Web will pull all applications within its grasp. The benefits that come from being connected are just too powerful to ultimately resist. ”

“ If there is particular meaningful information in the layout of the text that can't be expressed in ASCII, like special characters or complex tables or fonts, HTML may offer an open format alternative.
H.3. Can I submit a HTML version without a plain ASCII version?
You can submit it, but the Posting Team will then consider whether we should also make an ASCII, or perhaps ISO-8859 or Unicode version of it. We really do want our texts to be viewable by everybody, under every circumstances, and we do not want to start posting texts that are in any way inaccessible to anyone. ”

“ My final HTML text is now in htmstep7.htm. You need to have the image front.gif in the same directory in order to see it. When your HTML text is posted, the images will be zipped with it, so that future readers can see them. ”

“ Quite true - when we wikify a typical HTML div block through a template such as {{center}} that has them opening & closing on their own "lines", we wind up inserting paragraph tags (also a block) containing the input text without even realizing it thanks to the wikicoding. This makes the div's class dealing with indentation pretty much pointless and the div's style subject to the paragraph tag's defaults at the same time (thus, your messed up vertical padding) . A block wrapping another block containing just a word or two is the typical example of overkill around here. ”

“ When a text needs a lot of non-standard formatting or markup, you really need to ask yourself whether you shouldn't be submitting it in HTML, with all the bells and whistles, and settle for something more normal in the text variant. ”

“ This is pretty standard for websites, especially with user-generated content, and works well. What's biting us here is the nightmare that is HTML table layout, where web browsers have several decades worth of hacky special-casing and guesswork—different for every browser engine—and very little in the way of standardisation. ”

“ I think you are assuming that the span tags would be added before the templates are called. For starters, I am pretty sure that the templates are evaluated first, and then the HTML is added. But, I dont care whether the templates or HTML conversion happens first at the moment - if we are going to get a dev to add build something specifically for our Page: namespace, they are going to have to do it in the way that works for our needs. The main issue is we dont yet know our needs; we need to think it through and come up with something that works. ”

“ Layout flexibility is the raison d'etre of HTML, and we're assuming our readers will ignore that, stalwartly refuse to resize their browser windows, and instead look for sidebar buttons that will let them cycle through a limited number of fixed layouts. If the fact that our readers already have fine-grained control over window width and font size can be dismissed as 'the intentions of programmers', what cannot be dismissed in this way? ”

“ More recently, following on the huge popularity of the World Wide Web, pseudo-HTML markup has become popular for similar purposes:

Your father was a hamster and your mother smelt of elderberries!

You'll even see this with an HTML-style modifier:
You seem well-suited for a career in government.
Hackers also mix letters and numbers more freely than in mainstream usage. In particular, it is good hackish style to write a digit sequence where you intend the reader to understand the text string that names that number in English. ”

“ Computers, and software, are bone stupid in general. A computer program faced with interpreting ... distinctions like émigré (use—mention distinction) , émigré (emphasis) , Émigré (title of work) , and émigré (foreign loan-word) is only going to be able to observe that the rendered text is in italic type, and that the HTML source used the émigré markup, whose semantics (defined in the HTML standard) is "emphasis". All our subtle semantic hints from the "Manual of Style" example are gone. ”

“ It is likely that, at some time in the next couple of years, we will start on a large-scale conversion project, to add some form of markup to all of the existing text files for ease of serving, and having a mish-mash of existing markup styles to deal with at that point won't help either.
H.9. How big can the images be in a HTML file?
The images should be as big as necessary, and no bigger.
Sorry, but there is no clear number to give here. Web page designers sweat blood to save an extra 20K on a page; so should you. If you're an experienced HTML maker, you know this stuff ”

“ CharlesSpencer (talk) 11:31, 10 July 2019 (UTC) in HTML paragrpah tags

and

(used to mark paragraph's of text, must be balanced with in a run of text. I.e If you have 2 opening P tags and only 1 close, then you have made a mistake, and browsers using strict evaluation and parsing of HTML will complain, or not render the markup correctly. The same is true for SPAN an DIV tags... Like brackets and braces in template code they have to be balanced. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:42, 10 July 2019 (UTC) In your template, you have an opening P tag but no equivalent closing tag. ”

“ I don't disagree that the browser/HTML combination offers amazing flexibility. My point is that while computer geeks the world over will tell you how "trivial" something is, and how easy it is to completely customize your software experience, I contend that most users don't do it and won't do it. Neither are they likely to click a layout button in the sidebar – hence this discussion about the default. Of course, I don't have data, only anecdote, so we're at an impasse ”

“ When we post a HTML eBook containing multiple files, whether they contain text or images, we post them only in zipped format, so if you don't have images, and want your text to be directly accessible, you should stick to one file where possible. ”

“ I won't say that isn't clever... and it certainly works... but it would be a brave person would come up with that solution up-front and expect it not to break the parser. In fact, I'm not too sure you'd always get away with mixing wikicode and pure HTML like that. I suspect coding the lot in raw HTML might be the safest/most comprehensible way—in which case what is mediawiki really doing for us other than supplying the editor? ”

“ No images are stored on a webpage; rather, the HTML instructions on the webpage provide an address for where the images are stored, whether in the webpage publisher’s computer or some other computer. In general, webpages are publicly available and can be accessed by computers connected to the Internet through the use of a web browser. ”

“ Mac users have the free spelling checker Excalibur, available from html>.
Gutcheck was used for format checking, and a few people had written some checking procedures of their own.
4. Working with HTML
In the survey, most volunteers preferred to handcraft their HTML using their normal editor. Those using a word processor edited the HTML as text, rather than composing a word processor file and then Saving As HTML. There was remarkable unanimity on this. ”

“ If we decide to go down this path I would argue strongly for rewriting a private version of {{aligned table}} which constructs all html tags directly (which is no drama at all for anybody familiar with most templates around here. Just doesn't look that resumé-impressive.) All the logic is already in place and adding a header=yes, bodyonly=yes footer=yes trio gives all the building blocks I think will be required for multiple-page support. ”

“ Even when poetry doesn't have indented lines, it is a good idea to indent quotations embedded in prose. Remember, others will be converting your text later—to HTML, to PDA reader formats, to formats that don't even exist yet—and much of this conversion will be done automatically, by computer programs. It is very hard for a program to know when it can and can't re-wrap lines to fit a screen size unless it has a clear signal that this line should not be wrapped. ”

“ An HTML document is made up of block and inline elements nested inside each other. However, there is one important rule: it is not valid for an inline element to contain a block element. Inline elements can contain only other inline elements and block elements can contain either other block elements and/or inline elements. ”

“ We take a lot of trouble to ensure that our website uses only valid, standard HTML, and we're not even slightly tempted to use glitzy features that look good in one browser but don't work in another, so we can promise you that our site is not the problem. ”

“ For some reason people pooh-pooh that argument, as though HTML wasn't specifically designed for dynamic layout in a user agent whose canvas size is under the control of the user. Hesperian 06:41, 28 August 2010 (UTC) So rather to give reader a correct layout you prefer to put the burden on them? User expect working site, not things that must be tweaked here and there. This has already been discussed in Mediawiki:Common.css, as said Jack Merridew, user surf with a full-screen view and default settings. ”

“ The Style Guide should be limited to giving guidelines compatible with producing sufficiently simple HTML amenable to rendering on as many desktop and mobile browsers as possible, and also with the Download utility family. Anything more is not going to stand the test of time as the consuming platforms of the coming decade will have characteristics we cannot currently even anticipate. ”

“ Where a simple, standard PG-ASCII layout does not, in your view, "adequately express the content", you should think of making your text in another open format, perhaps HTML or XML or TeX, that allows you to use more characters, more formatting options, and images. We are always happy to accept these kinds of files. In these cases, you should also provide a standard PG-ASCII version, even if you feel it is unacceptably degraded, for those who cannot use your preferred format. ”

“ Rich Text Format was originally a Microsoft specification, but it is an open format that is used by many word processors to exchange text and format information in an application-independent way. Nearly all current word processors will read and edit an RTF file, and, like HTML, it can also be edited as plain text. ”