“ I've seen and used the "EB1911 footer initials" and find it just as easy and effective to implement the initials without a template. The placement doesn't exactly match Britannica, but I find it acceptable. The "float: right" sometimes looks odd in my experience. I've noticed the missing italics. I generally use a hyphen where you might use an ndash or minus just because it's handy, except once when a minus made a table easier to format. Certainly I don't object to other editors changing the hyphen to something else. ”

“ I think "looking like the book" can be overemphasized when it saddles the electronic version with limitations of the print version, or saddles the editor with excessive requirements. We don't preserve the hyphenation in the text body, and I see good reason not to in the shoulder headings. When Wikisource's original wide format is used for the shoulder headings, it is consistent, and it provides room so that hyphenation isn't needed. Another of my hobby horses in this vein is figure placement. I think Gutenberg does well to move all the figures so they are between paragraphs. ”

“ I found some of the missing by trying archive links that were missing from the links that turned up in an archive.org searches, but looking for a sequence in Google ids is pretty impossible. I will try your idea of doing a Google search at archive.org. I don't have the bandwidth to upload encyclopedia volumes to Wikimedia Commons. Google makes it very easy to get to a scan if they have the volume, just use their search in book. ”

“ I'm just picky, and like to do things like re-proofread even validated pages at times... It's not that difficult to "check without transclusion" as you stated, but it is still easier and more efficient for a final validator to work off an index page. And even if you are doing articles piecemeal, you don't have to proofread an entire EB1911 index page (which can be daunting if you only want to complete a small article) , just make at the section heading that you have proofread that section already, like section 1 here. ”

“ Hi Bob, just thought you might be interested to know I just uploaded one volume of The American Cyclopaedia, here: Index:The American Cyclopædia (1879) Volume XII.djvu
I read through the discussion above, and just want to say I wholeheartedly enjoy and appreciate the work you do, and agree that it moves things forward. There's always time to shift formatting around and tie things more tightly to the source material, but I agree that the best thing is to work in a way that is enjoyable for you, and advances your own goals, as long as they are generally consistent with Wikisource's goals. ”

“ This is a marvelous project, and it seems a phenomenal amount of work. My changes have been aimed at making it compatible with other projects, where if there is a dot in the title this is used in the file name. Some OS's may have a problem. I use an old OS, and Javascript crashes my browser when I edit so I have to turn it off. But it doesn't make sense to have the troubles of a very small minority of users drive the whole presentation. ”

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“ I can personally attest to the fact that you do quality proofreading work—having re-proofread your work after copy/pasting the Millet text to the Index page, and only finding maybe one typo, I think—but I've also come across some spurious text here at WS as well (not yours) that some other proofreader/validator might overlook in a match-and-split process. ”

“ Full author template Hi Bob, The {{Author}} template requests that its use be of the full template and to retain the order. If you are using Firefox as your browser, you can even get set it within your preferences to load the relevant Header and Author templates in the respective namespaces. Generally with new authors a quick attempt will be made to add relevant detail. ”

“ In looking at how Wikipedia links to Wikisource pages via templates, I have found a few things to improve; but the situation with EB1911 is a bit more complex. The obvious template for what I'd want is {{1911}} over there; but the construction is somewhat awkward. For other things (DNB, Catholic Encyclopedia and a couple I have set up recently) you just pipe the template with the article name. The template {{1911}} allows one to put in any URL ”

“ Re "It isn't too critical here, but I am trying to stick to a simple rule, the rule being to include the title, with an exception for repeated last names where a repetition in the boldface section is excluded along with the title." I too am trying to stick to a simple rule, namely that what is boldfaced becomes the headword of the entry. What Wikipedia does is not really important for the design of headwords of EB1911. Re "But my sense is 1911 Britannica favors the label "Casimir, Count Pulaski"." ”

“ I do a lot of work on Wikisource, and it is hard to see careless editing like that on projects I've worked on, and these people are not newbees I don't believe. I know things go faster if people don't check their work, but I think that should be second nature around Wikisource. ”

“ I also adjusted the font size of the author initials when they appear in fine print back to standard size to match the print version. I did think about adding {{clear}} (or rather, the source for it:

to the end of {{EB1911 footer initials}} template, but it affects the alignment if {{EB1911 fine print/e}} follows directly after the initials, which it often does. An ndash for a year range is the correct character (EB1911 always has ndash for year ranges, sometimes for other number ranges. A hyphen is often, but not always, used for page ranges) . ”

“ Would you remind returning to the discussion at Wikisource:Scriptorium#Phase_out_TextQuality_templates_and_system and clarifying your position on the removal of the text quality radio buttons? There is wide support for keeping {{TextQuality}} in its current state for use in works not using the page namespace, but a number of users would like to remove the radio buttons to simplify the interface and not confuse new users. ”

“ Index:1911 Encyclopedia Britanica vol-1a-ad valorem .djvu I presume you are aware that [ [Index:1911 Encyclopedia Britanica vol-1a-ad valorem .djvu] is uploaded at Commons and available (other vols. I haven't checked.) At the DNB project we have been having great success using the Page: environment to prepare text for Proofread and Validated stages. If there is any of our learnings that we can share, we are more than happy to do so. ”

“ The edit you are talking about doesn't even come to mind. I try not to count on people being telepathic. I don't use deprecated code if I can see a work around. You have been a help with , but it would be nice to have some documentation to refer to. My latest puzzle is how to handle transcluding JPEG projects without {{page}}. from and to don't seem to work, and include seems to be all or nothing. A particular project is Encouragements and Warnings were I ended up reordering the pagelist in the index to get the page sequence I wanted. ”

“ Removal of hyphenation Hi Bob, I saw you recently made changes to Page:EB1911 - Volume 07.djvu/53 etc. I can see what you're trying to achieve, but now the 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica/Contract article has inconsistent sized Shoulder Headings. I believe the standard "EB1911 Shoulder Heading" template is too wide, it shows too much white space when the heading is a short word and is not like the printed book. "EB1911 Shoulder HeadingSmall" produces a spacing more link the printed book and does require some hyphenation (like the printed book does) to fit the headings in. ”

“ Some people have made this into a religion about how you have to glob that last paragraph (remove the line breaks) when all that is necessary is a newline in the footer; the appearance of the transclusion is never affected in either case. Your other edit certainly modified a usage of {{EB1911 fine print/s}} I would never make, but my style is not to have the blank line before {{EB1911 fine print/s}}, so I modified the edit to get rid of the blank line before. ”

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“ IMO, the best solution here, if there's not a way to use only from, to, fromsection and tosection as above is just to get a scan file made. WS:LAB would probably be able to run you one off pretty quickly if asked (as would I, when I'm at the right computer) . Inductiveload—talk/contribs 17:48, 3 January 2022 (UTC) @Inductiveload: I work on documentation when I have the necessary background. Like when I found {{hws}} etc. didn't mention the new auto-hyphenation feature in the transclusion software, I tried to integrate it into there. ”

“ Herbert Welsh I thought that name rang a bell when I saw it... Welsh and Coates were neighbors in Germantown. Coates' husband Edward was also a member of the Indian Rights Association. Sorry... I just like seeing Coates-related info pop up on WS! ”

“ But maybe this isn't a reliable behavior as far as future software releases are concerned (?) and I should try out the from/to there and on this project and Encouragements and Warnings and I imagine there are others I need to check back on. It certainly is convenient. Moving the pages around in the pagelist seems like too much of a hack, but it is a simple fix. Thank you for the documentation link. Manual of The Mother Church is another place where a project got trashed with ill-conceived fixes of the {{page}} problem. ”

“ It makes more sense to provide work arounds for those users, like redirects for MS-DOS users, and browser reconfiguration for people like me. If necessary, some sort of project page to explain the work arounds can be provided. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 14:20, 11 December 2011 (UTC) Numbering of author contributions of PSM Please don't remove the numbering of PSM contributions in the Author namespace, as you have for Author:Eliza Ann Youmans, which I restored. The project is dynamic and numbering greatly helps to eliminate errors and track the contributions. ”

“ So I will try using a {{clear}} next time I run into a problem with {{EB1911 footer initials}}. I will also look closer at what EB1911 is doing with number ranges. The distinction between an ndash and a hyphen has been pretty much under my radar when looking over source. Thanks for your feedback on these issues. Library Guy (talk) 21:11, 1 March 2020 (UTC) Summer on the Lakes Did you intend for the first poem to be left aligned, and the poem following it to be centered? On a wide monitor that looks very odd. ”

“ I find the spurious line break to be more annoying than the failure to adjust line-height in proportion to font-size. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 16:01, 27 February 2017 (UTC) Wikisource:WikiProject Encyclopædia Britannica, Ninth Edition I noticed that you had contributed to Encyclopædia Britannica, Ninth Edition, FYI I created a project page "Wikisource:WikiProject Encyclopædia Britannica, Ninth Edition", it is a copy with modification of WS:EB1911. ”

“ The main thing for me is to have the article available in Wikisource. The rest is icing on the cake. The transclusion software makes it easier to check the text, but sources are readily available enough that it is not that hard to check without transclusion, even if you don't have the images and text locally. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 19:08, 14 December 2011 (UTC) Quantity and availability is good, but quality is better... ”

“ I have left the updating of the links to previous and next largely unfinished. --Dan Polansky (talk) 14:51, 19 March 2010 (UTC) EB1911 - disambiguating words I think that disambiguating words in article titles of EB1911 should better be capitalized. So I would move 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica/Abbot, George (writer) to 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica/Abbot, George (Writer) . The rationale is that we use title case ("Eunuch Flute") in article titles, so we should also use it with disambiguating words. Is that okay with you? ”

“ In the case of EB11 vol. 15 unfortunately the last page is not blank. NIE has bigger problems with missing pages. In that case, along with occasional missing pages, a whole volume is gone. I have been using the JPEG approach there with 1903 page images (the DJVU are 1905 images) . This works pretty well, but sometimes there are subtle differences between the 1903 and 1905 page images. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 15:06, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
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“ Got a EB vol who would like some guidance Gday. Via my talk page, I have had a query from Innotata who is looking for guidance on EB1911. I can answer the general questions, though I hesitate with some of the more specific guidance and templates that you have in play. Care to address them? Thanks. -- billinghurst (talk) 05:46, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
Index:Appletons' Cyclopædia of American Biography (1900, volume 5) .djvu Hi. I don't know if you noticed, but I uploaded File:Appletons' Cyclopædia of American Biography (1900, volume 5) .djvu. ”

“ I will reply at the PSM project talk page. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 17:03, 12 January 2012 (UTC) re: {{Collier's}} and similar Is there a reason why such dictionary templates link to Wikipedia but not to Wiktionary? - Amgine (talk) 18:11, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
This seems like a good idea. The only reason I can see against it is infrequency of use, where for infrequent situations the multi-purpose other_projects can serve. But given an encyclopedia like EB11 tries to be a dictionary, a specialized Wiktionary link would be useful frequently enough to make sense in {{EB1911}}. ”

“ Thank you so much for validating this! Slow and steady wins the race, as they say :) BethNaught (talk) 19:36, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
You're welcome! It was an interesting read. The text was very accurate. I just found that one hyphenation problem that I told you about. Library Guy (talk) 14:13, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
I fixed a few problems you introduced to Page:EB1911 - Volume 14.djvu/219 Hi Bob, just FYI, I came across your edit last month to Page:EB1911 - Volume 14.djvu/219 and saw some good corrections but noticed a few problems you introduced with your edit on 23 Jan. ”

“ Has something changed? Is the presentation (how the article appears) affected? Does it just offend people looking at low level HTML? Bob Burkhardt (talk) 10:04, 18 March 2022 (UTC) I guess I have been following your procedure, always following the template with a line break, though occasionally I follow it directly with a {{clear}} when {{EB1911 footer initials}} ends the block. I am thinking above of a double line break before and after. I will have to study your edit more closely. ”