“ Best to get into good habits ASAP I always think. We are a little recalcitrant beyond Wikisource:Style guide and H:Side. Often we try to replicate the look of the book, though we leave that to the editor's discretion. Sometimes we do display a little different between the Page: namespace, and the text transcluded into the main namespace, as what is right in a book, may not be on a computer screen. tag is very useful, and used far more widely than in just poetry. ”

“ Well, I've not seen it done with the "import" tool, however concurrent development of page content is a common problem, so a similar situation occurs when an admin does a "page merge". To fix it "nicely", you need to split the history out. w:Wikipedia:How to fix cut-and-paste moves is the best help page I can find quickly. Pathoschild is good at this. I can do it next week (bug me) . The quick/nasty solution is to delete the template, and then restore only the most recent "good" revision, and then someone else can worry about the proper fix later. ”

“ So what are you thinking that has led to option 2? Are you linking to the document root and nothing else? Hesperian 07:34, 3 October 2009 (UTC) Yes, I do believe that we should be able to get to the root of a work from anywhere within a work. Since the breadcrumbs began being served on the tops of our pages, it would seem there is a level of redundancy in complex coding of Title lines. If you think that it adds to your works, and that it was too bold for me to modify them, just need to tell me and I will undo those changes, and just modify the Author lines. ”

“ Sweet. Move functionality turns on when you become Autoconfirmed and it takes several days. There is no specific nomenclature for speeches. I had no major problem with the naming that you had, the only thing that I would have done differently is to have dropped the word 'Eisenhower' as it has a smidgeon of redundancy with our mandated {{header}} or appearing on an author page. There is some guidance for completion of the template. Also, is there a way to cite the source used for this page? ”

“ A wiki is about a community going forward, not cyberstalking someone with whom you disagree. We will do what is required to maintain the civility, and to keep this site to its purpose. You can play games, and plead ignorance. Whatever! We will do what is required to manage cyberstalking. -- billinghurst (talk) 02:24, 29 September 2009 (UTC) As the banning policy states: "This does not mean that obviously helpful edits (such as fixing typos or undoing vandalism) must be reverted just because they were made by a banned user, but the presumption in ambiguous cases should be to revert." ”

“ To reply on the ODNB: well, we could, but there is (apparently) an issue to take seriously. The DNB text there may be a later edition than the one we are working on, which is the first. Therefore it would be necessary in each case to check carefully through it, and to undo all the updates by comparison with the first edition. (This is not just pedantry: most likely the later edition is still in copyright.) I was thinking of doing exactly this, as a way of proceeding with parts of the DNB where all the available scans are poor. ”

“ I have no reason to doubt the bona fides of the editor who has been so diligently working on the content, or the validity of the e-mails he says he exchanged with the authors, but sometimes overzealous editors claim that things are free content when they really aren’t. ”

“ I fear that I've done the easy bit, and doing something useful with the list will prove a pain in the backside.One concern is I see a lot of recent stuff on the list: stuff that people are working on as we speak. I guess you want to clean up the forgotten and abandoned bits; you don't want to get under anyone's feet if they are still working on something. So it might be good to provide output as a table that can be sorted into validation order, so that the oldest pages can be dealt with first. ”

“ Umm, I not certain exactly to what you are referring, so I will address in a number of way
if you are talking : character, I am not certain, though hazarding a guess that it is based on an w:Em (typography) measure, and it looks to be about 2em. if you are using the <poem> tag, then what looks best for the work. if you are talking what is defined in the Common.css file, it is 2em. -- billinghurst (talk) 04:26, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
My understanding of "character" is every space including a blank space. ”

“ Not trying to upset anyone's work, nor do things that are unwarranted, nor undo wanted components, just simplifying, and in some places we have a high level of complexity that doesn't seem to add value since the breadcrumbs are available. BEFORE | title = [ [../../|The miscellaneous botanical works of Robert Brown] ] , [ [../|Volume 2] ] AFTER | title = [ [../../] ] , Volume 2 in my view, all the breadcrumbs for each level of subpages are available at the top of the page, similarly for me, the [ [../../] ] gives the full title. ”

“ Generally here in the wiki, we do not try to over engineer how pages are laid out, nor impose a specific formatting as you indicated above, and hence allow each user to use the style that suits them. So for a fuller explanation of how you can set your style, try w:Help:User style. For the pages here, don't feel that you need to overly impose a stylistic representation or overly format, unless there is a specific need to a page in a certain means. -- billinghurst (talk) What's the right way to . ”

“ Others can come along and validate. Images: personal choice and partly depends on your wish on how closely to replicate the work. If transcluded work and there is an image in the work, we would generally look to replicate the images. ”

“ The template doesn't necessarily meet the needs for snippets of information. The issue also becomes that the text in Description is reasonably small, and I am aware of people who are unable to read it. -- billinghurst (talk) 10:29, 9 February 2009 (UTC) I've never seen this done before, and I'm telling you that it's pretty much against all the guidelines I know in this area. Arguing over whether it is a "description" or not isn't relevant; if it's not one of his works, it belongs in his description; if it doesn't belong there either, then it doesn't belong on the page. ”

“ You are doing a great job and bringing interesting sources to Wikisource, I think that we can do a little more to get the same result with a little less effort. :-) billinghurst (talk) 21:10, 3 November 2009 (UTC) - Thank you so much! I don't know how those braces got there. I sure don't recall placing them there. Everything looked fine to me except having "Template" at the top. I honestly think a wiki gremlin did that. In reference to over-coding I always want a full justification just as a book has. I cannot stand a "ragged" right side of the page and books are not that messy. ”

“ I'm meaning to be here at English Wikisource because only over here you can create something like this. do you can create that for me? I would have thought that it was possible at Hebrew WS, the Index/Page: environment is not special to English WS. Your English is far better than my Hebrew. :-) billinghurst (talk) 09:11, 2 November 2009 (UTC) The pool is deep Thanks for your most informative message, and grateful for permitting to dip my toe and allowing to experiment. ”

“ Help is hopefully a chain reaction. I give it to you, you give it to someone else, ... In that way help is also like knowledge. -- billinghurst (talk) 06:03, 8 August 2009 (UTC) redundant Echoing format: Hello hello Billinghurst billinghurst
On Author pages there is, as you know, a rectangle at the top right of the page that states "See biography" being a link to a Wikipedia article on the author. To that is added yet another link to the same material on Wikipedia stating, "--Excerpted from on Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia." Why is that a necessity on "Author" pages? ”

“ Speaking of page: namespace problems, I'm having problems with the formatting of poems. The trivial concern of line spacing is more noticeable with these, using or ":" indents, and if I ever knew how to control this I've forgotten now. Hiding tags in the header/footer doesn't seem to work, that was my best guess. Cygnis insignis (talk) 12:27, 12 August 2009 (UTC) My brain is slowing, and not my area of specialty. ”

“ Nice to have the impetus to support what you have been working upon. My gut feel on Works in the main namespace If it is only a small component of the chapters of a work, to mark the individual components. ”

“ You have a gift in this -- one that comes from a lot of past effort in learning and dedication. Of course I am willing to go to the area you have pointed to. I am most willing to work but and I need that knowledge. ”

“ Whether or not the text is vandalism, it's not part of the original text, and definitely doesn't belong there. If anything, it should be discussed on the talk page. Regardless, Wikisource is not really the medium for discussing the legality of laws and by-laws. Jude (talk) 23:43, 19 October 2009 (UTC) What he said. In short, the work belongs in the body; and commentary, source, etc. belong in the Notes or on the respective talk page. Similarly, if there are subpages, most categorisation belongs at the top level, not at sub-level unless there is a point of difference to make. ”

“ I have downloaded the files; will OCR; convert to DJVU; upload and create the Index: page. I will have to get a colleague to rip the text with his bot. All that may take a day or two.-- billinghurst (talk) 23:15, 3 June 2009 (UTC) Thanks for the note Thanks for the welcome note. I was actually about to add a link on the Eisenhower page, but I had second thoughts about the title of the article. I wanted to see if I could fix that first. In Wikipedia you can change the name by a "move," but there seems to be no such option here on Wikisource. ”

“ Would feel that a note on the talk page would be meaningful. An issue for proofreading is how do we manage a text with a level of dispute, I would suggest that a level of protection makes for a more obvious disagreement/complication, rather than notes on a talk page, or history. One tends not to read those prior to proofreading. -- billinghurst (talk) 04:08, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Possible bot problem Hi, I'm perusing Ante-Nicene Fathers/Volume I and note that some header templates have errored since your bot changed {{header2}} to {{header}}. We also now have erroneous author information. ”

“ I did a quick check, and there doesn't appear to be any template on that page (although you've made 6 of the 7 updates, including an interesting one about schliff-s.) Would it be possible for you to please remove the (mis-) categorization from that page? —unsigned comment by SoftlySaid (talk) .
Fixed. I left out a leading colon where I used the category in the body of the text. D'uh. billinghurst (talk) 22:17, 14 November 2009 (UTC) My first go at a transclusion Hi, I've just had a go at transcluding Nature (1836) from Page space. ”

“ I contact him, he gives me permission to put it on here (along with his own reference for this permission) , and still it's deleted? I'm not sure how it is outside Wikisource's scope?
What exactly do I need to do to get the lyrics on wikipedia, as I have permission from the copyright owner to do so?—unsigned comment by Phantomsteve (talk) .
I will have a look, but not tonight. Brain is mush. -- billinghurst (talk) 13:28, 28 June 2009 (UTC) I will get a scan of the letter - unfortunately, I'm at my partner's house (where my scanner is) - but the letter is at home! ”

“ I do leave extra spacing because I am an old fellow and my eyes get weary as text bleeds to a point of a blur. Someday I may have to get eyeglasses but not yet. I have learned a lot from you regarding what to do and not to do and I appreciate it. You have an almost thankless task and yet you are always helping others aside from what you prefer to work on. William Maury Morris (talk) 22:59, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
Page:Plato or Protagoras.djvu/19 Your edit notes indicated that you did something with the Greek passage, but I didn't see any change there in the diff. ”

“ If it is page of your creation and you are the only contributor, mark it for speedy delete with {{sdelete}} and you can also add a reason like this {{sdelete|author requesting deletion}}. If it is a standard page and you believe that it requires deletion, then add {{delete}} and then add a link and reason at Wikisource:Proposed deletions and that starts a discussion. In a wiki, editors don't have deletion rights. -- billinghurst (talk) 07:26, 12 October 2009 (UTC) It is a page of my creation and I am the only contributor. ”

“ However, since this text has no scans, we do not see anything. I do not see why we should trust the note that has been left by that anonymous user; there's also no reason to believe that these spelling errors were transcription errors made by that user. Texts without scans cannot be trusted, no matter how many 'notes' are appended. I think it's a waste of time to correct them; it is also a waste of time to fight against them being corrected. I suggest to put a banner on the page, warning readers that the text is unreliable. ThomasV (talk) 07:44, 25 March 2009 (UTC) Bot edit. ”

“ An example of that I am working upon at the moment is Index:Notes on the churches in the counties of Kent, Sussex, and Surrey.djvu being made into Notes on the churches in the counties of Kent, Sussex, and Surrey. One would think that PSM will get the same treatment. So from your point of view, you can join the project or you can help proofread, and watch the pages appear.-- billinghurst (talk) 06:12, 26 October 2009 (UTC) [email protected] Billinghurst, is there someone at this address who actually hands out OTRS tickets? I have been directing people to [email protected]. ”

“ What do you mean suck in the text? Do you mean to add the text as a text layer in the djvu? If that is what you mean, I am not sure if we know how to do that yet. If you have any questions or comments, please leave a message on my talk page. --Mattwj2002 (talk) 23:19, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
You have already done it, and it is all in place and public. Nothing else needs to be done. Thanks. -- billinghurst (talk) 07:01, 22 February 2009 (UTC) {{Indexes}} template Thanks for the tip about the {{Indexes}} template. ”