“ Ideally "This is a community with a shared approach... not one that more seems to reflect one person's ideals or the lowest common denominator approach. I would like to find a less divisive approach but that requires a different approach."
Billinghurst, people have been searching for that approach since the dawn of mankind, and it is itself an ideal is it not?.... Human nature being what it is, we can only continue doing what we are doing... always keeping in mind that there is an ideal... We just won't attain it till we die. ”

“ As a defense of literature and technology, the word geek doesn't really touch me as I am far from being any sort of geek, a word by the way, that is not good and is a reference to someone accomplished in scientific or technical pursuits which we all should respect because they are pillars of our society and of our great nation. Think NASA and John Glenn. Yes, archive.org has those volumes not nowhere near all of them. I have looked over those scans and saw nothing wrong with those I saw. ”

“ Doesn't stop you doing and recording the research for the people, just means that you maybe want to wait before the redlinks For those who are authors, I hunt and hunt to identify those who are authors and have done (tooooooo) many hours of research, none of which regretted. It is probably not fully evident in our author page guidance in that we will link to any published work on the web from an author page, not just to our internal page. Our requisite is that we link to a freely viewable work, not something behind a subscription wall. ”

“ Yet another is that everyone know how to do 'search and replace', having boffins doing this by hacking the djvu file will go wrong (sorry, but this almost certain, Murphy's Law) . There are some common errors with OCR, and I would cautiously add them to the clean-up script, but many are specific to each index, because it depends on many factors: which OCR program, how that was tweaked, the type of text, the font, the formatting, etc. One needs a lot of experience to see how it can go wrong. ”

“ There are already default table classes within mediawiki wikis, and you can read more about those at w:Help:Tables, though usually something like class="prettytable" is sufficient. If you did want to look to have a level of uniformity for a work, then you can create a template that can be plug into your table, eg. in a page called &x91; [Template:TableFormatWorkXYZ] ] you could have something like style="your style formatting...", or sub-components of style like colour schemes. As stated earlier we generally haven't tended to do much in that regard as we replicate the look of the work. ”

“ Currently, the Page namespace depends on a plain old text dump that basically ignores the column, paragraph, line, word and other meta/mapping detail-types among some other possible shortcuts that could lead to easier proofreading & validation if developed fully.I was schooled to understand that making a flexible spell checker routine part of the Page: namespace without the benefits of XML and a customized WS document type definition file (.DTD) would not be worthwhile even as an attempt (I have no reason to doubt that evaluation if it matters) . ”

“ Those having gone through combat will know the difference between boredom and peace. It's a judgement call on an individual's level. Darwin never had to experience an abundance of excitement in his world other than that of of his world of science. ”

“ Re proofreading vs validation. The acts are equally important, and some people prefer to do one, and not the other, and that is okay, we are thankful for whatever contribution are given. We do find with works that getting them validated can be a drawn out task as someone has a passion with a work to get it proofread, and others may not share that passion so the validation is elongated, so in November of each year we have taken to validating as our proofread of the month. — billinghurst sDrewth 06:22, 23 June 2012 (UTC) ”

“ Without keeping that basic mapping/formating found in the OCR'd file all the way to Page: creation, the idea of a "built-in" effective spell-checker is pretty much impossible to achieve. I wouldn't worry about anything like that materializing anytime soon. I can't say I see the logic of correcting (the spelling in) the dumped text file over correcting the actual embedded text layer of the DjVu but if that approach is working for you on your end - more power to you. ”

“ There is a difference in a fast-paced and highly-exciting lifestyle that an individual experiences and how much of that lifestyle is not "boring" as opposed to too much excitement for long periods of time in life that an individual determines what is boring as opposed to the same situation being peaceful. ”

“ Times Other works ... basically without having to generate manual pages when we have subpages. So your inputs there would be great. — billinghurst sDrewth 02:43, 15 January 2012 (UTC) You said you couldn't tell a subpage from the API, but I was able to find some good variables that do through APING my betters in Wikimedia template programming. As for these displays you want, maybe if we originated a special newspaper header, we could assign multiple categories automatically when the header detects when a certain page is down on either a root directory, a subdirectory or a sub-sub directory. ”

“ I wouldn't know literary value if it can and bit me on the arse. — billinghurst sDrewth 03:12, 19 March 2012 (UTC) Oh, it doesn't bother me even though I do like poetry. Too, I think you must have been thinking of the word, "nerd". Both geek and nerd are expressions, in my opinion, of envy from decades passed. I can honestly say I envy people with those qualities. They are involved with creativity, beauty, and culture. ”

“ I usually ask AdamBMorgan to upload a book here and he does. I see all pages in small squares as page numbers and edit those. I have looked at what you have done and it appears it stopped short of making those pages. Things are easy when one knows what is happening and gets used to it. I have no idea as to the intricacy of placing a book from archive.org on Wikisource. I do know how to scan and make .PDF files, upload them and use them, OCR them offline, or save to individual images. tlx-book-SISTER-commons? ”

“ After all, it's a color world! -- Maury. ( —William Maury Morris II Talk 20:53, 23 December 2011 (UTC) I do not know if it is possible but if InductiveLoad is in a creative mode with his javaScripts and css cascading style sheets, bed-knobs and broom-sticks, it would be a major option if the images remain online as then are shown in the book and yet create something so that the online user/editor/administrator/visitor could rotate any image to see the full image properly. ”

“ Kindest regards, Maury ( —William Maury Morris IITalk 19:00, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
I am a simple person and just use em dashes in the works that I transclude, however if someone in a work that they are bringing uses the template that puts thin spaces as they believe that is what is the style of the work, so be it. Consistency on a work is more important than an opinion. So if someone starts a work and has doing that on a work, continue it. If there is inconsistency in a work , then the polite discussion is always a nice place to start. — billinghurst sDrewth 09:37, 2 November 2012 (UTC) ”

“ IF I could just upload a PDF file up I can get the text from that. In fact, I can get the text without comparison images as I did with the older books I placed on Wikisource with my Brother Officer account. What is wrong with that format? It's easier and faster. Alas! I have always been far more worthy at physical things throughout my youth that with technological things at my present age. ”

“ The sad reality is "we" have already executed what they had hoped to avert by that and previous patches with our introduction of Dynamic Layouts and its creation of a psuedo-page-content-container div (s) - a container wrapping div that does exactly what they now consider problematic moving forward (i.e. the use of #contentSub thru #catlinks for the creation of what at the time was the lack of a universal user & skin generated default div container at the time see the talk page) . ”

“ These are all various beauties of creationism within mankind -- the peaceful and beautiful side of our culture as opposed to man's warring nature. In the recent past I also felt as you do about Google until good ole George Orwell III talked some since into me about in which I later agreed and concluded "something is better than nothing".—William Maury Morris II Talk 03:05, 19 March 2012 (UTC) Re geek, don't take it more than a jovial reference where I was more setting a contrast with me who is "literature neanderthal." ”

“ Britain is the "Mother Country" of the USA and many other former colonies such as Australia. Canada and Australia still sing Hail to the Queen. The USA does not due to the American Revolutionary war that the British lost twice, one being in 1814. Twice Britain has tried to retain the Americans by war against her and twice the British lost. ”

“ Earlier today I added an illustration of a lady that I found when reading over a few very short works that you and others have done. Literature would never be classified as something geeky in any manner and certainly no more so that works of art and architecture. ”

“ You state that you have a "tool that uploads to commons", where is this tool and what is it called and by "commons" do you mean Wikicommons or here on Wikisource? I would think you mean on Wikicommons since images are no longer uploaded here on Wiksource and our "sister" wiki handles all images for WP and WS et al. Are you indicating that a person can download a djvu file to his computer and then upload that file up to Wikicommons to be used here on Wikisource? ”

“ What we are wanting them to do is to implement an automated update functionality so that it sits with whichever version is current. Accessing additional functionality may or may not be useful here or to other functions, and I am not certain that the DjVu to PDF component is necessary or used for Proofread Page extension. If there is a new version then we create the noise by updating the bugzilla to new version. — billinghurst sDrewth 06:01, 15 July 2011 (UTC) Not sayng that anybody is going to do djvu to pdf conversions specifically per se. ”

“ I can't see much reason to change, although granted it is inconsistent with the way {{header}} handles things. The method of handling in the pedia articles has the advantage that the reader can instantly see any difference in article titles which with the old encyclopedias is frequently useful information, and the more accessible and transparent the better. A wikipedia box on in the notes is less transparent on this issue I think. My revert also included the author parameter. ”

“ If you can think of a different means for in the works redlinks, I am open to suggestions of a better way. Well I guess I'm missing the point of adding the &ndash containing redirect (s) "now" rather than in masse "later" if its true that the actual work will always have a name where the hyphen is always the rule. My point was (is) , for example, that (as best as I can tell) the target exists (or merely needs transclusion) BUT earlier editors did not include the b&d years in the mainspace title (s) at all. ”

“ You are not dull but instead you are a witty wordsmith and I admire your intelligence and you as a hard worker. —William Maury Morris II Talk 03:56, 19 March 2012 (UTC) Life is not meant to be boring ... and I will try for the delightful as well. (with full apologies to George Bernard Shaw) —unsigned comment by Billinghurst (talk) . 11:53, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
THE HE-ANCIENT. When a thing is funny, search it for a hidden truth. ”

“ I will push myself more than I should and partly because I cannot sleep at night. I sleep about 4-5 hours average/day. HathiTrust is a matter of collecting page-by-page, one page at a time and that itself is a long process but do-able when one has the tenacity. ”

“ Other issues have also come to light here today. My destiny was never to be a writer, except for one book, but rather to be a person who saves old books for untold generations of the present but more so for generations of the future. Well then, Eureka!, today is a grand ole day! Respectfully, —William Maury Morris II Talk 13:36, 20 March 2012 (UTC) Doon School (Obituary-T Singh) Hi Billinghurst, This is regarding http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Guardian/2008/Obituary/Tejeshwar_Singh I am not sure about the rules here but is a Newspaper obituary also copyrighted?????? ”

“ What is "ideal" is different for everyone. You can't separate a man from his ideals. They are with him in his every action, thought, edit, and upload! That is as it should be. Londonjackbooks (talk) 11:37, 7 October 2011 (UTC) Proofreading options. Category:Index Proofread or look at Special:IndexPages, and move works to Validated. It is what I look to do when I wish to wander and feel that I have advanced some works to completed status. — billinghurst sDrewth 02:07, 11 October 2011 (UTC) Author:Edward Tregear Hi. The en:wiki page for this author has the full name w:Edward Robert Tregear. ”