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“ What format is being looked at to supply the information? We encourage image files with text layers, though that is usually when we are proofreading / transcribing, which isn't going to be happening on this occasion. Our preferred means is .djvu file, and these are uploaded to Commons, which obviously makes them universally available. If they create a PDF file with a text layer, see instructions about conversion at the djvu link. Alternatively, mention where we can download a PDF file, and a number of us can assist. ”

“ For one, the necessary tools are just not in place. I have a PDF for The Literary Gazette, 1820 but, at the moment, I cannot see any way of proceeding with this method. Having indexed it, I cannot leave it as needing a text layer; I have made that mistake before, only for my file to be overwritten. The snippets of text to be entered are each only a small part of a page. Even so, the whole page must be marked as proofread, even though most of its text is not there. In fact this text has already been validated. ”

“ I have found another scan which includes those pages here.
I don't even know what tools to use. How does one:
Extract two pages from a PDF file Insert those pages in a djvu file Correct the WS index after updating the file at commons? (And feel free to point me at the documentation, which must exist somewhere around here.) Thanks in advance. ”

“ Internet Archive If you want a PDF file, or possibly another file format, but not a printed book, it may be possible to go to a source text on the Internet Archive. Many texts produced with the proofreading tool are based on DjVu files downloaded from the archive. If you can find the appropriate file on the archive should be able to get the file in format you desire as they derive many different formats from their scans. ”

“ I'll leave our standard welcome message on your talk page shortly, with some useful links to get started. The process in short is: upload the PDF to Commons; create an Index: page for it here; transcribe the text page by page in the Page: namespace; and then transclude it for presentation on a wikipage derived from the article's title. Feel free to ask for assistance: our tooling is specialised and not the most intuitive for people trying to use it for the first time. ”

“ A typesetter may also make mistakes for a scanned .PDF or DJVU book book whereas you may have submitted the work properly. Letters, as you probably know, were pressed down many times to where an h can look like a b or a c can look like an o. Typesetters do not always throw a type back into the melting pot and make a new letter so as not to make mistakes. I worked, as did another around here, as a type setter for a summer so I know that process from old books. Sure, you can read an imperfect .PDF file but the blind cannot. ”

“ We here who work with .PDF Files need to know how to clean them before moving to WS and how to work with text layers which many of us do not know and are constantly asking others to do these things for us. ”

“ I would like to ask some questions for the future and they are definitely not urgent.
Do you split and/or merge in .PDF or .Djvu format? If it's .Djvu - what software do you use? For removing watermarks, etc. do you work on .PDF, .Djvu or some image format, . . . and what software do you use? — Ineuw talk 08:37, 25 March 2013 (UTC) Nowadays, I try to do as much tweaking as possible in the core PDF file rather than afterward in the resulting DjVu file from IA's conversion. This primarily because I was given a full copy of Adobe Acrobat Pro, Ver. ”

“ If someone has a problem with your choices I am sure a proper discussion will get underway. If no discussion follows the rewrite, then everyone agrees with your recommendations more or less. --BirgitteSB 02:20, 28 August 2008 (UTC) Questions One-page and PDF versions of book Is there a way to get a one-page version of a book, thus enabling searching of the book using a browser's search function? And is there any way to create a PDF version? ”

“ I'd love to see the text made complete. Sure I'd love help. How do we start? - Capitalismojo (talk) 14:20, 3 June 2009 (UTC) How many pages in the doc? How big a PDF file? What would it be like to email? -- billinghurst (talk) 14:25, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Here are the links to the PDF. HUAC 1HUAC2 HUAC3 from the wikisource article. I am not sure how large they are. I would gues over 100 pages total from all three PDFs. Capitalismojo (talk) 14:32, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
OK, I have agreed to volunteer to complete the text. I'll first read the DjVu file and work from there. ”

“ Our example file's derive history highlights on the left and a 2 day old file's derive history highlights to the right -- note the (v##### or version no. for each.
Not only have the modules and software been updated in those 4 some-odd years but we are presented with an unusual opportunity in this case. Look closer at the Index of files for our example... notice the .PDF file (line 4) is not the "oldest" file of the bunch? ”

“ It is about time that you were assimilated (into our fringe collective) . The short answer is yes, they are appropriate, and we have a project specifically for such at Wikisource:WikiProject Academic Papers which would be the ideal place for the conversation on the nitty gritty. While PDF is okay, we have a general preference for DjVu files and our practice is to upload them into Commons wherever the joint licence conditions allow. We could just take the text alone, but you can understand the nicety about text and image files. ”

“ I usually ask AdamBMorgan to upload a book here and he does. I see all pages in small squares as page numbers and edit those. I have looked at what you have done and it appears it stopped short of making those pages. Things are easy when one knows what is happening and gets used to it. I have no idea as to the intricacy of placing a book from archive.org on Wikisource. I do know how to scan and make .PDF files, upload them and use them, OCR them offline, or save to individual images. tlx-book-SISTER-commons? ”

“ I presume that I'll need to create subpages of that subpage too... it all goes wrong, some delete job for a willing admin.
As soon as works will begin, I'll post here a link to pages and to scripts I'll use. The model will be Wikisource:Books/Equitation, that I built as a human user some time ago.
Can any of you suggest a valuable proofread work to use for my try? The best would be a medium complex book, built using the last version of proofread extension (t.i. using pages index tag) , SAL 50% or 75% (just to see ongoing edits into resulting pdf book) . ”

“ No reason at all that I should be listed as a contributor. So...I am feeling satisfied to make some progress...but also, I am starting to despair that PDF generation might be practical on Wikisource, which seems like a pretty major shortcoming. Your thoughts, as always, would be most welcome. -Pete (talk) 06:00, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
Sneak post / Back in a bit... but had to tell you to open book maker (?) after you open the sidebar option to save as PDF to further adjust columns/internal ^&$@*^ ToC etc. ”

“ In making your bibliography you will use some of the sources which have just been described, especially "Poole's Index," and "The Reader's Guide," and the subject catalogue of the library. Make your entries so full that you can go at once to the source; it is poor economy to save a minute on copying down a title, and then waste ten or fifteen in going back to the source from which you got it. On large subjects the number of books and articles is far beyond the possibilities of most courses in argumentation, and here you must exercise your judgment in choosing the most important. ”

“ The brochures of the serial shall be arranged for gathering into volumes, each comprising the issue of a calendar year; and about the close of each year there shall be published in a brochure arranged to complete the volume a title-page, a list of contents, and an index for the corresponding volume, together with an abstract of the proceedings of the Society and lists of officers and members for the year, and a copy of the by-laws and rules governing the Society. ”

“ And, finally, it must have an index which forms a ready key to the tables of the schedule, and is a convenient means of checking the placings of books.
233.
233. The theory of classification is a subject for special study, and there are rules of order, division, nomenclature, notation and indexing which it is useful for a library student to master. As the ground has been covered adequately by the text-books [208] which are listed at the end of this, we shall do better to refer the reader to these rather than to enlarge this manual by attempting to traverse it. ”

“ Each entry provides basic editorial and subscription information, ISSN, e-mail address, URL, electronic and other formats, an indication whether the journal is refereed (not always accurate) , an incomplete (and sometimes inaccurate) list of serial bibliographies and abstracts that index the publication, and—for some periodicals—a brief description of contents or editorial focus, a link to tables of contents, and reviews published in a limited number of journals. ”

“ Ebooks complement paper books. [Ebooks complement paper books] . Having an ebook is good. Having a paper book is good. Having both is even better. One reader wrote to me and said that he read half my first novel from the bound book, and printed the other half on scrap-paper to read at the beach. Students write to me to say that it's easier to do their term papers if they can copy and paste their quotations into their word-processors. ”

“ Where on the shelves of the library is a certain book to be found, if it is not in use by a reader?
To answer these questions certain “entries”, or records, are made in the catalog, called the author, title, subject and series entries. Question 6, which is asked in connection with all the other questions, is answered by the call number, which appears on every entry.
The most general book of reference is the dictionary. Every one is more or less familiar with its arrangement. ”

“ As that page is reserved for "behind-the-scenes" editorial discussion— something that users who want the bibliographic information shouldn't be shown or bothered with. I propose adding an optional appendage to the header (or even a separate template at the foot of the document) which can give concise information regarding the text being read. Such as: original publication, publication Wikisource text is based off, text quality/progress, notes, etc. A rough sketch of what I had in mind can be found on my development page on Wikipedia. ”

“ Other copy for the editorial page—letters to the editor, communications, verse, comments from other newspapers, and the like—is prepared by his assistants. “Editing” copy means preparing it for the compositor, putting it in the exact language in which it is to be printed.
Systematic, careful revision of all copy is necessary not alone to correct error of fact, of judgment, of good taste, but also to regulate the volume of matter. The notion that newspapers print articles “just to fill up” is as absurd as the intimation that they “print anything they can get.” ”

“ A reader seeking a book of a known author, in the vast majority of cases, wants simply the number by which to call for it, and can find it much sooner in a brief title catalogue. In the rare cases where more is needed the class number refers instantly to all these facts on the cards. On the other hand, a reader seeking books on a known subject, needs the full title, imprint, cross-references, and notes, to enable him to choose the book best suited to his wants. ”

“ A typical entry provides a bibliographical citation, notes (on content, scope, number of entries, and previous editions) , and location of at least one copy. Three indexes: authors; titles; subjects (with separate ones for English and French headings) . Concludes with a “short entry listing”—a list, by author or title of anonymous work, of all 7,375 entries—that merely wastes a substantial amount of paper and contributes to the unwieldy size of the volume. ”

“ My e-texts may prove convenient substitutes for hard-to-get works in a course where both instructor and students accept the possibility of some imperfections in the text, but if you are writing a scholarly article, dissertation, or book, you should use the standard hard-copy editions of any works you cite. ”

“ The great object of a Public library is despatch in procuring books. This can only be secured by perspicuity in describing them. In my humble judgment no better mode could possibly be devised for obtaining any particular work than the printed tickets which I suggested in 1837, and which are now in use. By specifying the Titles from the Catalogue, and copying from it the Press-marks, the applicant can at once identify the particular edition or copy of an edition which he requires. ”

“ That art means the multiplication of books or documents by means of an adequate quantity of single types for composing a whole page of text, and capable of being taken asunder and used again for a second, a third and a multitude of other pages, and so produce a number of copies of a book in the same or a shorter time than a scribe with his pen could produce one copy. ”

“ Suppose there are a dozen papers in the same city which are entitled to the Associated Press dispatches. Instead of making a dozen separate copies, which might vary through mistakes, one writing answers for all the dozen. First, a sheet of prepared tissue paper is laid down, then a sheet of a black, smutty sort of paper, then two sheets of tissue paper, then a sheet of black paper, and so on, until as many sheets of tissue paper have been piled up, as there are copies wanted. ”