“ For the most part, Wikisource has nowhere to put new artwork, and doesn't host custom-illustrated editions. However, much of Wikisource is public domain, or at the very least under a CC-BY-SA license, so if you had the inspiration to illustrate a work, you could copy and/or edit the text to a document or website to do so. Alternatively, there are a few specific things we could use help from artists on. One is vectorizing graphics that get used a lot, with a careful eye for matching the original scan. ”

“ Hi Reguyla, the option to validate disappeared because you can't validate a page that you yourself proofread. When you undid your validation, you demoted the page to proofread status, and thus the system decided that you are the proofreader of the page! It's a known bug that no-one cares to fix. ”

“ I should create a table for all the browsers in various OS's. I tested the OCR in the following browsers using Ineuw for the advanced toolbar and my public account configured for the legacy toolbar.
In both Windows and Apple - Logging out and then in works if not on the first try then the second. Advanced toolbar In Windows and Apple - It always works with the advanced toolbar in all browsers. This includes, Firefox, IE 11, Chrome, Opera and Safari. Legacy toolbar In Windows - It works in all browsers except in Opera, where logging out and in brought it up on the second try. ”

“ I think no formulaic answer will be possible; there is always going to be some judgment call about where the line should be drawn. The nature of what we do with text eliminates the original line breaks, alters footnote styles and sometimes numbering, etc.; so it's hard for me to see merit in the position that our (insert:overriding) goal is to reproduce what was published in a pure form. Given the examples above, assuming that is the best scan likely to be available in the foreseeable future, I would strongly support recreation. ”

“ The community around our image database, which is called Wikimedia Commons, are very aware of copyright and follow a very strict interpretation of it. These particular people on the internet care a great deal about copyright and correctly identifying public domain, and I'm convinced that the vast majority of images is tagged correctly. ”

“ In case an old Index, if you realize something is wrong, fix the file by inserting/removing the missing pages, newly upload the source file, adjust the pagelist and move the Page:yyy.djvu/n pages as needed. If they are many, ask for a bot request, specifying your needs. ”

“ What is also absent from the summary above is that most the discussion has been over our internal filename, which may or may not be reflected in the title we use for the user-accessible version of the work. We could upload a file to Commons as File:Fred.dvju, use Index:Fred.djvu locally, create Page:Fred.djvu, and still title that work Axioms Outlined by Artistotle. Our internal filename and public work title do not have to match, nor do they even have to resemble each other. Frequently, they do not. ”

“ Wikisource webpages keep on loading non stop Wikisource keeps on loading a page long after it's fully loaded. In Windows 7, this is true with Firefox, Comodo Dragon (Chrome) and Opera, but not with IE 11. Every other website loads and stops normally, including Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons. This ongoing loading is also in Linux Xubuntu 14.04 Firefox, but not Chromium (Chrome) . ”

“ Calligraphic font Need some guidance about what font to use in Index:The Constitution of India (Original Calligraphed and Illuminated Version) .djvu. The work is handwritten, so a suitable font would be nice. Initially I tried Edwardian Script ITC, with ULS template, which looked nice in my laptop. Then I checked with other devices and found font unsupported, so reverted the uls thing. Can anyone suggest a font compatible across browsers and devices, at least the modern ones? There is another problem. The work has illustrations on almost every page, done by India's master artists. ”

“ Once manually enabled AND given some time for the change to actually work its way through the existing cache or caching for each user, the OCR button should then reliably generate for you in each and every Page: edit session you initiate and leave the PR extension and the CharInsert toolbar to their own "functioning states" at the same time. ”

“ When a .DjVu is uploaded and hosted as a source-file, all that additional, internal "informative data" is processed as / forced to the metadata part of the File: namespace where one typically finds info like camera-type, various date, dpi, colors, and similar for true image files like .PNGs, .JPGs and .TIFFs for example. ”

“ There should never a comma placed in the middle of a noun phrase like "space time". The reason that Gutenberg and Google also contain the comma is that all three come from the same mistranscribed source error. If you look at the text itself in the copies, there is no comma on the book's title page, only in the name under which they have chosen to list the book. So, again, it is a file name error made by people unfamiliar with the concept of spacetime. --EncycloPetey (talk) 15:03, 10 February 2015 (UTC) Well, look at one of the first translations: Espace, Temps et Gravitation (French 1921) . ”

“ We can use alt= within an image to capture words. It is a less than perfect situation either way, and one that harks back to the whole annotation argument or replication vs. modernisation. — billinghurst sDrewth 00:56, 12 March 2015 (UTC) I had always understood that some degree of modernization is inevitable on Wikisource—after all, we are working in hypertext here. That said, I'm not sure where exactly the line should be drawn, since some diagrams (like these) really are little more than text arranged in an unusual way. We make no attempt to preserve every last exact detail of typography. ”

“ With "For the Common Good" if you need a configuration file for transferring from enWikisource to Commons, I have a version for download at User:Billinghurst/tools/FtCG configuration file for enWS.wiki. If moving multiple files, or needing to rewrite descriptions/templates on the fly, it is the preferred tool; if you are just looking to move one, then toollabs:CommonsHelper and as is an OAuth tool. ”

“ I have found another scan which includes those pages here.
I don't even know what tools to use. How does one:
Extract two pages from a PDF file Insert those pages in a djvu file Correct the WS index after updating the file at commons? (And feel free to point me at the documentation, which must exist somewhere around here.) Thanks in advance. ”

“ The work is licenced as {{pd/1923|1923}} which puts it in the public domain in the United States and in the United Kingdom. What its copyright status is in your country you will need to check based on the information available. The licence at the bottom of the page is the site licence, about all the contributions, and talks about how you can utilise the version of the work that we have produced from the original. Copyright has levels of complexity and each time there is a new production there is a new version of copyright to aspects. ”

“ The title page of the version added here does not have this comma. The version present here is from Internet Archive, which shows the comma. The IA version is originally from UC Berkeley, whose online catalogue shows the comma. User:Максим Пе has pointed out that Gutenberg, Amazon and a French translation, all have the comma. EncycloPetey has opined that: Space time does not require a comma in between, being a single concept. Pathore has pointed out that the term space time, without a comma, is present only on the title pages of the work, and not in the main body. ”

“ It is somewhat like having an illustrated book instead of a non-illustrated book. Art is beautiful to the eye of the beholder. —Maury (talk) 06:23, 11 May 2015 (UTC) UnifrakturMaguntia is the first and only server-side blackletter/fraktur font on Wikisource. The previous system suggested a font family on the user-side but that depended on the user having such a font available (the back-up option was bold text in the normal font) . ”

“ This means it wasn't the original source file uploaded to IA for processing but one of the result products of the processing. The .tar archive (line 17) of presumably 1 .jp2 file for every 1 page scanned is the source file.
Now a bad scan is bad scan and no amount of re-jiggering will dramatically improve on resulting quality of files derived. The flip side being a good-scan is a good scan and re-running the latest derive modules and updated software against it will likely improve results one way or the other - maybe even all around (i.e. better thumbnails and a superior text-layer) . ”

“ A teacher's exasperation with answering repeated questions is always met with the frustration of a well-intended student for having to ask the questions in the first place. I appreciate the explanations—general to technical. ”

“ The main namespace root page's title is the most important (both internally and externally) . Nobody stopping by here gives a sh!t about anything else -- if landing on the mainspace is hindered by "poor naming practices" in reality, I assure you the traffic will go to the places where we ripped the source file from to begin with instead. -- George Orwell III (talk) 04:46, 12 February 2015 (UTC) @Hrishikes: (Edit conflict) Some of the assertions made above are misleading or at least incomplete in their summary. Specific instances: The IA version does NOT contain the comma. ”

“ Hrishikes (talk) 07:00, 7 September 2015 (UTC) This really is an adjunct to Hrishikes remarks: See {{=}} for one approach. Another is demonstrated on your page: choose the innermost formatting template surrounding the offending equals sign and insert "1=" (or whatever is appropriate to that template) in front of the string being formatted. This forces wikisource to treat all of that text up to the first "|" or ""}}" as being a single value not to be further broken down. (In case this is not already obvious the "=" upsets the system because it tries to treat it as a parameter assignment.) ”

“ Have you tried the SVG editor at WMF labs? https://mol-static.wmflabs.org/svg-edit/editor/svg-editor.html — billinghurst sDrewth 12:38, 21 June 2015 (UTC) (As a complete aside I have finally figured out what attribute stroke et al achieves—and have further come to the conclusion it really is not what you wanted in any case. SVG1.1 overview specifications may be found here.) I took the liberty of submitting your "improved" version to the W3C markup validation service and fiddling with the thing per suggestions made there until it finally passed muster. ”

“ Everything is fine. It only looked like a mess during the brief period after we had renamed our local files, but the source file on Commons had not yet been moved. Once everything was moved, the mess was resolved. --EncycloPetey (talk) 15:06, 10 February 2015 (UTC) @Ineuw: There is no reason to add a comma to the book's title. It never had one. Einstein's concept of spacetime can be written with a blank space (space time) , a hyphen (space-time) , or be written as a single word (spacetime) , but it cannot be written with a comma in the middle of the term. ”

“ If such a file is indexed, and then overwritten by a new, better version, what happens? Does a new index need creation? Must the new file include the same number of pages? Similarly, what's the procedure for "Frankenstein" articles, that for instance draw from 2 or more different sources (e.g. a djvu missing a cover image and title page supplemented with a cover .jpg and single page.) ? Animalparty (talk) 22:06, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
Rule 1: for a new Index always check the file for missing images or incorrectly ordered pages before starting proofreading. ”

“ There are many such ways. After extraction of the pages as images, assemble them in a separate folder. Convert that folder to djvu using Djvu Toy or such other application. Then open the original djvu file using the edit option of Djvu Toy. Insert the new djvu file at appropriate location. Hope this helps. But mind, in the cyber world, there are many roads going to the same destination. This is just one of the roads. Hrishikes (talk) 14:35, 29 June 2015 (UTC) A question about CSS classes Do we have a single file for CSS "classes," if not, where are the CSS class declarations like "fsInherit"? ”

“ Nobody comes here nor to Commons for a source file - they most likely do the same thing we do - rip it from Internet Archive, HathiTrust, or Google Books ∴ the only thing that contributors should be concerned about for the title they select for a source file being uploaded is that it a. ”

“ I did manage to embed a link under the text that points to our main page at least. (Note: syntaxhighlight extension appears to be semi-broken; enclose, style settings have no effect) . -- George Orwell III (talk) 01:58, 25 June 2015 (UTC) @George Orwell III: Firefox 38.0.5 will not display anything when presented with this latest; but will accept (i.e. display and act upon) the linkable image if <svg> attributes height and width are relaxed to (both) values "auto". Does a viewBox set to all zeros even make sense (and if not would it be best to remove the specification?) ”

“ When using a table, you are at the mercy of whatever the software and browser decide to do. For the table of contents, the extra line spacing comes from starting a new table on each page. What you need is a table that spans several pages, so that the fomatting is consistent across the whole. You can accomplish this by opening the second (and third, etc.) pages of the table in the header, and using {{nop}} (on that page and at the bottom of the previous one) to ensure that the new table row starts on a fresh line for the software. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:49, 3 October 2015 (UTC) Thanks ”

“ Using firefox as the browser, I did the manual steps for the 5 pages and saved png on my computer just to compare with what the bot does. When I saved to my pc the highest res was 1024 x 645 which is the laptop screen res. When I would repeat the manual steps for a page the png resolution would drop to 921 x 581. Thanks Robin2014 (talk) 15:42, 9 June 2015 (UTC) Categories gone missing? I'm not quite sure if I'm not just missing something obvious here, but the categories on The Wounded Cricketer don't seem to be showing — with the exception of the date category that's added by the header. ”

“ If you find IA's upload process daunting, don't let that stop you. Far better than doing nothing, would be to upload them directly to Commons, and let one of us handle the other steps. If you choose that path, hopefully this link is all you need: commons:Special:UploadWizard -Pete (talk) 22:17, 11 March 2015 (UTC) Should we recreate line diagrams or use original scans? I've been working on some 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica articles, and have run into items that straddle the boundary between image and text: diagrams consisting only of lines and words. ”

“ Moreover, if machines can do all the work bar the finishing touches, then where is the challenge for the human mind? Hrishikes (talk) 06:01, 3 January 2015 (UTC) It was not my intention to step on anyone's toes or to belittle someone's point of view -- merely to offer my learned approach to this particular subject matter. The fact the work in question was the exception to the norm was the real reason I felt more detail would only enhance comprehension.Nevertheless - I beg to differ with your point. "Bots" should be doing as much -- if not all -- the proofreading and layout as possible. ”