Formatting

“ For examples on ro.wikisource, see ro:Categorie:Index. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 23:53, 8 February 2017 (UTC) Does formatting have to be fully faithful to the original? I ask because I've already done partial digitization of a book elsewhere. I want to continue it here but my work reformats the original slightly to be more legible (IMO) for the 21st century: link vs. link. Suzukaze-c (talk) 21:10, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
Yes and No: When we transcribe in the Page namespace, as you are currently doing, we want to match the formatting of the original as closely as is possible and reasonable. ”

“ It's mostly up to the editors' discretion how closely they care to try to reproduce the formatting of the printed text. It is however good to be consistent within a work. Either changing this page and all future pages that have those lines to use that specially formatted line, or change the title page to use a normal rule ({{rule|width=120px}}) would be a solution. ”

“ Templates are shortcuts placed within sets of double curly brackets to perform various functions throughout Wikisource. As you proofread and edit texts in Wikisource, you can use templates to aid in formatting, navigation, and a variety of other tasks.
Formatting Templates Formatting templates are used to change the way that text displays when being read. ”

“ Put the formatting commands that you want to appear in the transclusion in the body, and use the header and footer sections to apply the remaining formatting to the individual pages. For example, you could mark up three Page: pages as
Page 1 Body: Start formatting Text Footer: End formatting Page 2 Header: Start formatting Body Text Footer End formatting Page 2 Header: Start formatting Body Text End formatting Since the headers and footers don't get transcluded, the mainspace transclusion ends up looking like
Start formatting Text Text Text End formatting Hope that helps. ”

“ An editor has created a template to assist with the formatting of entries, but a large number of oversights has lead to editing being impossible in some cases. Entries have duplicated periods, and it is impossible to create book titles with periods enclosed inside parentheses. ”

“ Can you clarify what you see as problematic? I took the liberty of adding "alt=T" for the T image, FWIW. (I'm hoping/assuming this is noncontroversial; see w:Wikipedia:Alternative text for images, .) -- Visviva (talk) 03:38, 25 March 2011 (UTC) That formatting would generally be considered contrary to our formatting guidance as we don't wish to force pages to form to a printed page construct. People viewing the web have different configurations (monitors, browsers, fonts, font sizes, ..., even devices) so forcing page widths and word wraps is problematic. ”

“ Yeah, I just flubbed the template link above ({{header}} has a, uhm, slightly different function :) ) . Part of the goal here is to get away from things like {{heading}} and {{ts}} that put all the formatting inline in the template invocation, and move to a template that just expresses the semantics ("This is a chapter heading") and leaves the formatting to the newly supported per-work style sheets (you may have noticed a new "Style" tab on index pages) . Provided we can make it work well and be user friendly it's a much cleaner solution from a technical perspective. ”

“ While non-fiction is not in principle any more difficult to format than fiction, many non-fiction books have lots of features like illustrations, tables, section sub-headings and footnotes, that require some extra work on the part of the producer. If the illustrations are essential, you should consider adding a HTML format file to allow you to present them.
See the page image nonfic.tif. This presents many formatting changes: the centered title will go to the left; the italicized chapter contents will become regular text, and the em-dashes will become "—" ”

“ Showing how it should be done, rather than describing how it should be done, will make it clear to everyone. We are arguing over contradictory wording on multiple RFCs and essays and draft policy pages. One good example will make it clear. I am still not sure if the "complete unannotated version" you are referring to is the scan of the original document, or we are supposed to cut and paste the text twice in every entry, one with links and one without links. Are formatting changes also annotations? Is choosing the text size for a headline changing the urgency of a news article? ”

“ Sound good. Perhaps first save as RTF format and upload that to http://pastebin.com (or a file sharing service of your choice) and I can hopefully make a script handle the formatting as well. If I can't handle that, I'll come back to you! Inductiveload—talk/contribs 17:59, 28 November 2017 (UTC) @Inductiveload: 1) My text needed a lot of proofing. 2) It was from a different edition so I made it to match yours... except no papers supplementary. 3) I went ahead and formatted for WS italics and small caps. 4) Uploaded to pastebin.com entitled V1 TOC in some textual format.txt. ”

“ Generally here in the wiki, we do not try to over engineer how pages are laid out, nor impose a specific formatting as you indicated above, and hence allow each user to use the style that suits them. So for a fuller explanation of how you can set your style, try w:Help:User style. For the pages here, don't feel that you need to overly impose a stylistic representation or overly format, unless there is a specific need to a page in a certain means. -- billinghurst (talk) What's the right way to . ”

“ Hrishikes (talk) 07:00, 7 September 2015 (UTC) This really is an adjunct to Hrishikes remarks: See {{=}} for one approach. Another is demonstrated on your page: choose the innermost formatting template surrounding the offending equals sign and insert "1=" (or whatever is appropriate to that template) in front of the string being formatted. This forces wikisource to treat all of that text up to the first "|" or ""}}" as being a single value not to be further broken down. (In case this is not already obvious the "=" upsets the system because it tries to treat it as a parameter assignment.) ”

“ And oft by yon blue gushing stream
Shall Sorrow lean her drooping head,
And feed deep thought with many a dream,
And lingering pause, and lightly tread,–
Fond wretch! as if her step disturb'd the dead!
Note: This style of formatting does not work well where the poem spans multiple pages as the width of the block is based on the width of the longest line (or page if the line wraps) . To achieve alignment across multiple pages, the start and end are controlled by {{Center block/s}} and {{Center block/e}} in main. See documentation for instructions. ”

“ Template:Box-header Template:Box-footer Usage A template standardizing the portal templates and for other purposes.
Template:Box-header and Template:Box-footer always need to be used in combination, as one opens formatting and the other closes formatting.
Syntax Use Template:Box-header, in exact capitalization, and never Template:Box-Header. The template is not a stand-alone template and so once the box header is typed or pasted the template Box-footer must immediately follow it. ”

“ Beeswaxcandle (talk) 05:47, 9 July 2013 (UTC) In other words, when the software is updated, but someone got it wrong, we have temporary disruption of formatting. This can happen with any tag or template as the software is updated. Right now, page numbers that float in the transclusion of works do not link back to the source page, as they should and as they used to do. Right now, more often than not, they lead to the Main Page. Or, not so long ago, our entire proofreading system went wonky for a day. We're always going to have bugginess whenever something gets updated. ”

“ Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:34, 21 June 2017 (UTC) Thanks. The playback problem must be at my end. I'll try from a different computer when I get the opportunity. --EncycloPetey (talk) 13:56, 21 June 2017 (UTC) Proofreading Quality check notices Thanks for the reverts on the relevant talk pages.
However, it was left because the item mentioned had been missed on both a proofread and validation. If you think it's not appropriate to warn about missed items like that, perhaps you could suggest a more appropriate response, other than to fix the relevant formatting or typos? ”

“ If the style require a comma before leaders, see that none have been left out; if the style reject a comma, see that none have been left in; in short, see to everything,—and then, on the corner of the sheet, write the word “Press” as boldly as you can, but with the moral certainty that some skulking blunder of author, compositor, or corrector has eluded all your watchfulness.
5 In the Government Printing Office the style omits the “$” in this case,—the sign at top of table or page being considered sufficient.
The errors made by ourselves are those which occasion us the most pain. ”

“ Minor elements of the page may contribute beauty or ugliness according to their handling: the headline and page number, their character and position; notes marginal or indented, footnotes; chapter headings and initials; catch-words; borders, head and tail pieces, vignettes, ornamental rules. Even the spacing of initials is a task for the skilled craftsman. Some printers go so far as to miter or shave the type-body of initials to make them, when printed, seem to cling more closely to the following text. Indenting, above all in poetry, is a feature strongly affecting the beauty of the page. ”

“ It is much better practice in printing to put such matter in smaller type than the type of the main text; or, if in type-written manuscript, to identify it by less space between its lines than is used between the lines preceding and following it, or by indenting the lines of the quotation more than the regular paragraph indention. Quotations thus identified need no quotation-marks. ”

“ The primary purpose of all printing is to be read. Anything that adds to the legibility of the printing improves it; anything that detracts from its legibility harms it. How can we so divide words that the legibility and intelligibility of the text will be maintained, the line justified to register, and the beauty of the page enhanced? These ends—legibility, intelligibility, and beauty—are the aims of all the rules which have been devised for the division of words. ”

“ Under proofreading section, include Problem Templates to mark missing tables, images, greek etc. Put OCR shortcomings, paragraphs, dictionary/spell check, character list etc there. Have font sizes and titles as separate sections; Tables and images too.
Reply If you found a missing section title, (or anything else) , please bring it to my attention because I must check my reference database which records the articles' parameters like a partial page. Also one minor error doesn't qualify for a new set of templates. Someone has to manage and monitor them. ”

“ Even when poetry doesn't have indented lines, it is a good idea to indent quotations embedded in prose. Remember, others will be converting your text later—to HTML, to PDA reader formats, to formats that don't even exist yet—and much of this conversion will be done automatically, by computer programs. It is very hard for a program to know when it can and can't re-wrap lines to fit a screen size unless it has a clear signal that this line should not be wrapped. ”

“ If one writes plough, and another plow, what matters it, so far as your proof-reading is concerned? If one writes “15th June,” and another “June 15” or “June 15th,” so let it stand on the printed page. It is idle to waste time in making things alike, that could not by any possibility have been written alike. But you can make each letter consistent with itself, which is all that uniformity requires. You need not stretch one man out, and cut off the feet of another, to justify all authors in your composing-stick. ”

“ In this room are thirty or forty type-setters. Each one of them has his number. When the copy comes up, a man takes it and cuts it up into little bits, as much as will make, say, a dozen lines in the paper, and numbers the bits—“one,” “two,” etc., to the end of the article. Type-setter after type-setter comes and takes one of these little bits, and in a few moments sets the type for it, and lays it down in a long trough, with the number of the bit of copy laid by the side of it. We will suppose that an article has been cut up into twenty bits. ”

“ Lozenge in­den­tion re­quires an ar­range­ment of the lines in this manner:
{57} PARAGRAPHING
Indention and Display are the methods employed in typography to secure clearness and to add distinction to the printed page, but clearness in the body of the text is dependent upon the skill of the writer in properly dividing his composition into paragraphs. Just as correct punctuation assists the reader in his understanding of a sentence, so does correct paragraphing add to the understanding of the composition as a whole. ”

“ If in the text there are extracts in the same or nearly the same size of type as the notes, coming at the bottom of the page, a full-width single rule should be used to separate the notes from the extracts.
In wide measure, the notes may be set to advantage in half-measure, with blank space of an eight-point em between the columns. This method of composition frequently saves space, and gives a more compact page, when the notes are short. When this method is used, the half-measure should not be used for a single note unless it makes at least two full lines. ”