“ With gender on Wikipedia, I think it is a given that the vast majority of people will not choose to enter this info. Perhaps a major software-based effort (like, a big dialog box that strongly requests the information) might change that, but I hope we won't go down that road. I think the reality is that genuine gender-oriented research in the Wikimedia world will need to use social techniques for gathering information, rather than computer-assisted techniques. It's a pain, but I don't see me sharing my info as a viable step toward changing that. ”
Summary
“Scriptorium/Archives/2015-05”, is a work by . It explores elements such as VisualEditor, toolbar and template.
Quotes from Scriptorium/Archives/2015-05 ()
“ I will definitely consider a screencast focused on image restoration, and if I make one -- or find a good one -- I'd be happy to link to it prominently from the blog post, YouTube page, etc. (One consideration is, I'm not really expert at it. I can do some things, but am not sure I'm the best person to do a demo. I'm also not too confident with free software like GIMP, which is what I'd prefer to use if guiding others.) ”
“ This is one area where the change in medium from physical book to electronic one means that we really cannot be faithful to the original. An electronic book cannot (and should not) enforce a certain page width and certain line breaks. We do not have the technology to insert hyphenation and other features that allow justified text on the printed page to look the way it does. If we want justification, my feeling is that it should be an option selectable by the end-user, and not something forced onto every reader. ”
“ If you want to see ligatures, set your font for Wikisource to one that automatically ligates. If you want to see the exact ligatures in the original text, use a scanned copy, or make a re-typeset facsimile (there are reasons why those have dropped out of fashion since accurate cheap photographic reprints, but as you will) . Don't try to do it in something that uses Wiki markup and turns it into HTML; those are the wrong tools for the job. The long-s at least has a shadowy existence as more than typography, even if it's less than a real letter ”
“ Support request with team editing experiment project Dear tech ambassadors, instead of spamming the Village Pump of each Wikipedia about my tiny project proposal for researching team editing (see here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Research_team_editing) , I have decided to leave to your own discretion if the matter is relevant enough to inform a wider audience already. I would appreciate if you could appraise if the Wikipedia community you are more familiar with could have interest in testing group editing "on their own grounds" and with their own guidance. ”
“ As a lay reader, I think Wikisource should be more friendly to the lay readers, for whom, the text of the ancient works are more interesting than the ancient orthography. Ancient orthography is mainly for researchers, who won't depend on a transcribed text anyway. If Wikisource is to become appealing to the common people, who constitute the mainframe of any reader base, the layouts and typography should be something the lay reader is comfortable with. ”
“ Sorry for not clarifying "Show edit toolbar" is the legacy toolbar. I assume you are using Windows. The problem is with our Mediawiki software update of Tuesday. It was mucked up somehow. The Mediawiki programmers test the software on all browsers, and this problem may have to do with local modifications to our English Wikisource. The problem is that in other browsers and Firefox in Linux work fine, (see my comments above) . There is nothing we can do until someone in the know will look at it. ”
“ Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.Recent changesYou can now hide site banners even if you don't have an account. You can now add citations more easily with VisualEditor on the French and Italian Wikipedia. The tool adds the information when you add some types of links. In the future you will be able to add this tool to your wiki. All sites should now be faster if you have a recent browser. You could see a serious bug when editing some templates with VisualEditor. It was fixed quickly. VisualEditor could break when you edited an image. ”
“ Spend some time in Mobile Mode and really go through some of our existing body of mainspace works; you should soon come to realize (as I have) the current previous & next design in our header frequently skews any hope of consistent, "centered" title, author, & like info that the header template typically retains for us. And since the footer template is based on the header template (in a nutshell) , there is little to no point in porting the footer over to mobile mode until these mainspace navigation header " [re] design" questions are resolved in a desktop view forum first. ”
“ This social experiment might involve redefining some aspects of the workflow we are all used to, with the hope of creating a more friendly and collaborative environment since editing under a group umbrella creates less social exposure than traditional "individual editing". ”
“ The amount of littering on my street, and in my neighborhood, is astonishing to me. I've lived here a couple years, and never seen a place where it's such common practice to toss every piece of trash to the wind without a thought. ”
“ See those lines in that image? That is what I was writing about. Too, it looks like the fellow has been blurred a bit but I don't know. I don't think a man would look as bad as he does regardless of just the lines problem. It looks like an image that was done on a painting with the canvas lines showing. Anyhow, you spoke and have written about "enhanced images" and this is not an enhanced image as I think of the word enhanced. I admire your work with the "Screencast" on YouTube and elsewhere and hope that you will work up something on true image enhancement. ”
“ Personally, I'm at the point now where I manually force most everything WikiEditor toolbar-button wise but my first recommendation regardless is to wait until after the usual Tuesday wmf core update to pass before filing a bug over it (it might fix itself) . At the same time, you might want to triple check your language settings and your universal language selector font & input settings (access typically found via the little gear icon next to Language menu for the latter two; user prefs for the former) . ”
“ The link is red if the article doesn't exist in the language of your options or of your browser. You can translate the article by clicking on the red link. MeetingsYou can read the notes from the last meeting with the VisualEditor team. You can join the next weekly meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meetings you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on March 11 at 19:00 (UTC) . See how to join. You can join a technical meeting in France in May. You can ask for help if you can't pay yourself. ”
“ It was based on a chart on Tool Labs ("gender gap / edits"; which appears to be down at the moment) . It wouldn't stand up as rigorous science but it can give an indication. I believe it is based on individual recorded edits and the declared gender of the user (via user preferences) . When it is working it looks like the screenshot example to the right (Wikisource is the purple line) . - AdamBMorgan (talk) 22:55, 10 March 2015 (UTC) The problem with trying to determine the actual number (s) for gender make-up starts with the lack of the User: preference setting. ”
“ I would say a higher scan resolution seems to have a huge impact on the results, so scaling up the image seems like quite good advice. Revent (talk) 23:53, 10 March 2015 (UTC) The moire (the technical name for the kind of halftone artifact this is) generally results from scanning (or printing) at a resolution that is not very compatible with the resolution of the dots used in the halftone process. As a general rule, the higher the scan (or print) resolution, the less likely there will be moire. But when the numbers are close enough to each other, things get pretty ugly. ”
“ I don't agree with some of the comments saying the long s is ugly. I think we're just not used to it and also which font is being used plays a role. Personally I'd like to read a text with the original long s since it takes you back to the time when it was actually used exclusively, it adds a flavor to the text that shows exactly how old it really is. ”
“ Just a quick response for now, more later: the lines you are referring to are called moire. Worth reading up on. I do know some techniques for reducing it; they work well on some images, not so well on others. It won't work well on this example (short version: because the dots are relatively large. Also, though I refer to this as a photo in the presentation, I'm sure it's a painting, which I think explains the ugliness!) Here is an instance where I (mostly) removed the moire, and then darkened and sharpened the image. ”
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“ Whatever we decide to try will then need to be re-sampled to see if we managed to improve our own numbers or not. In short, the entire endeavor does not seem promising at face value but we can't be certain unless we try. ”
“ Need some more feedback at least (Browser & Operating system) . Anyone else? -- George Orwell III (talk) 13:19, 5 March 2015 (UTC) Inspire Campaign: Improving diversity, improving content This March, we’re organizing an Inspire Campaign to encourage and support new ideas for improving gender diversity on Wikimedia projects. Less than 20% of Wikimedia contributors are women, and many important topics are still missing in our content. We invite all Wikimedians to participate. If you have an idea that could help address this problem, please get involved today! ”
“ To this end they have published letters describing what they think is needed and, recognizing that those who know the community the best are the community themselves, the election committee is accepting nominations for community members you think should run and will reach out to those nominated to provide them with information about the job and the election process. ”
“ Nevertheless, the original point remains; development planning is woefully handicapped by the lack of accurate data and this gender profile issue is but one of the many existing problems with using preference settings for sampling purposes. I'm only advocating for better sampling thru more proactive User: participation. In this case, I'm basically encouraging periodical reviews of User's own preference settings and is something we should consider formalizing to some degree imho. ”
“ They are all tools with which to explore and work with. I did 2 works on Cycles on YouTube using Windows Movie Maker, a very old program. I Used images from WikiSource, created a compilation, and added proper music -- it is important that music goes well with subject matter. ”
“ You can navigate away from that Winter article only so much in case that was not made clear & not everything "works" as expected either but its pretty robust as it stands today.Some of it I like; some of it will likely cause us some grief; overall I think it is a net improvement. Thoughts? Reactions? -- George Orwell III (talk) 00:38, 19 April 2015 (UTC) Interesting but I didn't see any great value in it. I do not like it being "likely" to give us any grief unless it is something that can worked out in a fairly short time--about a month? ”
“ I was looking for characters and it confused me. This problem existed with the Hebrew character order as well until someone from the language group corrected it, because I didn't know that it's a site matter. I don't mind re-ordering them and not asking someone else to do it.— Ineuw talk 01:18, 10 April 2015 (UTC) For the ordering, it seems like your preference rather than rightness and wrongness. It is a listing plain and simple. Nature isn't involved. — billinghurst sDrewth 03:26, 12 April 2015 (UTC) @Billinghurst: Sorry to disagree but there is a character order (in Unicode) . ”
“ Every Tuesday is software update day, and there can always been unintended consequences with changes taking place in one part that can effect us with Proofread Page. — billinghurst sDrewth 11:49, 18 March 2015 (UTC) "Enable enhanced editing toolbar" set to enabled seems to cause this for me (XP/Firefox 36.0.1.) Turned it off and the problem went away. ”
“ The new set named "Bengali" is not appearing even after cache refresh and restoring browser to default. Hrishikes (talk) 02:29, 18 April 2015 (UTC) AuFCL is right (of course) , we're looking at different sets of symbols. I don't usually use the wikiEditor toolbar and when I do, I've turned off the Special characters button. I'm using the CharInsert gadget (first one under the Editing tools section on the Gadgets page) and it's there that the Bengali characters list has been added. ”
“ Yes, I know that placing a quotation mark can resolve the problem, but, as I wrote above, there are more than 200 "highlanders" born in 19th century in the "Living people" category and it takes much time to handle 'em manually, so I think the best way is to solve the problem automatically.--Nonexyst (talk) 21:09, 11 April 2015 (UTC) Long s template Is a long s (s) template possible, which would be able to convert all lower case esses to a long s, except for the esses that are placed at the end of words in a given text. For example this text I'm working on Page:Cynegetica.djvu/56. ”
“ If the case is as said in above point C; I will need to revert all the changes made by me at Indian Copyright Law in last couple of days. ii) Since indic wikipedians (and for that matter most of Indias online common population) does not have another option for updated copy If I have to remove my changes from here and shift to wikipedia namespace on some wikipedia. @ User:Billinghurst after taking into account above aspects please do guide me what course of action do you suggest me. ”
“ IOW; we should have been manipulating the h2 thru h6 tags to do stuff like that at some point (eliminating the need of adding an anchor template to such centered-div chapter headings would have been likely with the advent of this latest refinement for example) .And as far as the "next" skin goes -- just switch to Mobile Mode from your desktop and you can get a good idea of where they are looking to go with the "next generation" of skins. -- George Orwell III (talk) 12:28, 3 March 2015 (UTC) ┌───────────────────┘ I’m showing display options frozen as a black link. is this the reason? ”
