“ It would probably make most sense to use redirects in the Author: namespace for pseudonyms like Mark Twain but portals for shared identities like Clarence Young. Ideally, all pseudonyms will be replaced with the correct author eventually, so Author pages for them ultimately be empty except for the header. We might as well start with a portal and not create "temporary" author pages, even if the ideal is never really reached. Short version: I think a portal is probably best. ”

“ I hadn't thought of copyright (and I'm not even sure if you can copyright the implementation of a system like this) . Wikipedia says that the latest version was released in 2003, so that might be off limits (if there is a copyright issue) . Author:Melville Louis Kossuth Dewey has a link to a Project Gutenberg version of Dewey's original. The most obvious difference is that "000 - General" is now "000 – Computer science, information & general works." ”

“ It is not a high hurdle. Somethings are clear, and somethings are not. Double redirects, no brainer, should be fine, whereas with interwikis the issue is that it is not a direct one to one relationship for works in the main namespace (eg. translations) , whereas in the author namespace, there is a corresponding one to one, so we would like to know what the bot is doing in that space, how it is controlled, how is the decision made, etc. — billinghurst sDrewth 01:29, 16 August 2010 (UTC) The bot would only work on Author, Category and Wikisource's namespaces. ”

“ Well without getting deeper into the weeds about the legitimacy (or the lack thereof) in placing entities or organizations under the Author: namespace to mimic individuals - what about some type of soft-redirect briefly explaining any odd attribution nuances, such as this apparent collective-pseudonym issue, before sending the reader off to the Author's page? We might have it do double-duty by supplementing "the oddity" in brief snippet with optional/additional links to all the appropriate or related Wikisource:, Wilipedia: or Portal: pages dealing with the attribution issue at hand. ”

“ If there is a book available and it is legal for us to utilise the source, we are happy to do so, whether it be via HT, Google, Archive.org, or a scan of great aunty Bertha to us doesn't matter. Where scans have restricted accessibility, then requests can be made here or find someone in irc://irc.freenode.net#wikisource (immediate requests) or at Wikisource:Requested texts (whenever round tuit) . We generally will only upload texts in which we have some prospect to undertake work, rather then an upload first, and value judgement second. ”

“ You certainly can copyright a categorisation system like the Dewey Decimal System, and I believe the 10-100k libraries that use it pay OCLC for a license. But obviously a public domain version would be acceptable here. Hesperian 13:19, 16 August 2010 (UTC) What about Library of Congress Classification? No copyright issues there. Also, I don't think we should create 900 unused portals, nor limit ourselves to integer-level portals (if DD is used) : there will always be some portals with far more material than others, so creating and dividing should be done as needed. ”

“ More about Author: namespace vs Portal: namespace We have been having a little upswing in pages like Portal:Parliament of South Africa being created, and a number [Author:United States ...] . Now I wasn't here at the time of the discussion for the creation of Author: namespace, however, from my understanding, the Author: namespace is meant to be solely for people author's not for organisations. ”

“ Inductiveload—talk/contribs 03:11, 16 August 2010 (UTC) Absolutely, partly why I have prompted the discussion on the principle, rather than just did. For portal a search is easy, it is the browse that adds relevance. That said, it deserves its own discussion header, rather than subsidiary to here. — billinghurst sDrewth 03:49, 16 August 2010 (UTC) Organisations such as NASA might count as authors as they have a corporate identity (which I think means that, among other things, the organisation can own copyrights and other author-based privileges) . ”

“ Separating people-authors from organisation-authors, in Author: and Portal: respectively, might complicate the way information is stored in Wikisource and could confuse new users. Then again, new users may well just click on links and not really think about the concept of namespaces at all. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 11:56, 16 August 2010 (UTC) Corporate identity and being an author is different, NASA acts rather as editor or publisher than as author. Another example, not yet existing in Author namespace: Author:Geological Society of London look like an error to me. ”

“ Americans have decent access to the PDFs of Google-digitized PD works anyway": Könntest du bitte in Erwägung ziehen, dass es noch andere Menschen auf der Welt als US-Bürger gibt (z.B. UK-Bürger) ? Es ist ein legitimes Ziel von Commons, edukative Inhalte zu hosten, wozu auch PD-Werke zählen. Commons wird von miesen Gallica-Scans geflutet und fr-WS muss diesen Müll transkribieren, was als großer Fortschritt gefeiert wird. Von daher verbitte ich mir diese Formulierung "flooding Commons". ”

“ And we want to work with the passionate and knowledgable volunteers in our community to produce the best results and lay the groundwork for ongoing resources (perhaps as a WikiProject) for Wikipedians who want some support in producing screencasts. ”

“ What to do with Author:Clarence Young I doing one of my occasional forays into continuing the preparatory work in Wikisource:WikiProject CrankyLibrarian and have come across a link for Author:Clarence Young. The difficulty is that w:Clarence Young indicates that we are not actually talking about an author, instead it is a publishing syndicate that published under that name, hence it doesn't fit under our traditional Author: namespace. ”

“ I have created {{portal header}} as a provisional template for people to play with. However, consideration needs to be given to the structure of the namespace. I see it as a tree, similar to categories, with a portal potentially having more than one parent. For example: Portal:British Museum belongs to Portal:Museums and Portal:United Kingdom. For the time being, while we hash stuff out, it has one "parent" field. Inductiveload—talk/contribs 00:17, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
As an aside, it seems very odd to be dropping font-size to 0.9em in the mainspace header, but not in any of the others. ”

“ HathiTrust According to http://www.resourceshelf.com/2010/07/09/hathitrust-digital-library-adds-new-content-accessible-to-all-users-nearly-100000-volumes-digitized-by-internet-archive/ members of HT partner institution seems to have access now to PDFs of Google-digitized PD works. If the work is PD in the US it can be uploaded to the Internet Archive, if it is PD in the US and in its country of origin it can be uplöoaded to Commons. It would be nice to have contact persons who are members (or friends of members) of HT partner institutions. ”

“ I already know it works with firefox, down to 2.0 and the latest version of Opera and Chrome, older not tested. It breaks with IE 6.0. Phe (talk) 12:03, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
While I have used and like the Author page creation that you have set up, I do find it problematic that I now have the option of one or the other. I would suggest that we may be wanting to nullify the Author component of Mediawiki:Gadget-TemplatePreloader.js so that we can have the best of both worlds. Would it be possible to insert your script so that it calls your script and leaves the main ns header completion intact. ”

“ Care to give a little background or link to similar operations, as per Wikisource:Bots. I would also recommend that you give it a burst of (throwing out a figure) 50 pages, and I think that it would be sweet. We probably also want to look at borrowing your bot so we can transfer legacy files to Commons, if that is okay with you. — billinghurst sDrewth 04:32, 11 August 2010 (UTC) Background? I run lot's of bots. Have of 3 million edits, see my contributions for examples. I'll do some more edits here. If you have free files here than these should be moved to Commons. ”

“ One of those labels that means many things, in this case it means the archive.org address that should appear on the File's description "source = " at commons. cygnis insignis 20:13, 27 August 2010 (UTC) Announcement/invitation Hi all, I'm wearing my Wikimedia Foundation hat today. You may be aware of our Bookshelf Project: creating collection of materials that help people understand the Wikimedia world and how to start contributing to our projects.
We believe that screencasts—video demonstrations of how to use software—are a great way to reach a wide audience. ”

“ DDC can better handle larger numbers of child portals or texts but it's a lot more complicated. Each system also has gaps we could use for new, Wikisource-specific categorisation if we need them. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 12:42, 17 August 2010 (UTC) If it's decided to extend the Author: namespace, the French solution is a possible way: fr:Catégorie:Auteurs-A Author: prefix is removed in category; fr:Auteur:William_Allingham, title is removed for all Author:* page (Another solution is to remove only the Author: prefix in Author:* page) . ”

“ This fixes the control-F search with firefox, and the Google indexing. With this option it is also possible to display pagebreaks (for example, I added a function that draws a transparent box over the page when the mouse is passed over a link) . I guess some debugging will be necessary ; the page numbers might be misaligned with actual pagebreaks if any other javascript interfers with the page. ThomasV (talk) 12:04, 4 August 2010 (UTC) Positioning and highlighting are broken at http://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=William_Blake,_a_critical_essay/Lyrical_poems&oldid=1936145. ”

“ In the case of Author:Clarence Young, I'd say that the notes on the individual works should say that they were ghostwritten but published with "Clarence Young" as the author, and Author:Clarence Young should explain it similarly in its notes section. I don't like the idea of requiring an additional click to get to the desired page (with a soft redirect) . —Spangineerwp (háblame) 16:24, 17 August 2010 (UTC) Found an earlier deletion discussion: Wikisource:Proposed deletions/Archives/2007/04#Author pages for organizations —unsigned comment by Billinghurst (talk) . ”

“ Zhaladshar : thanks, I fixed the "difficult to click link" after highlighting ThomasV (talk) 07:02, 14 August 2010 (UTC) I'm seeing page numbers in the sidebar (as struck above) . Hesperian 10:19, 14 August 2010 (UTC) Other parts of the work have an "indented-page" class, it should need none. Prose class is causing the page numbers to be indented from the margin, diff. cygnis insignis 11:14, 14 August 2010 (UTC) wheel zoom On a related note, for side-by-side editing in Opera, while selection zoom still works, mouse wheel zoom is broken. ”