“ I want make Hard Times the page that list all the versions of the work instead of containing the text of one specific edition. Languageseeker (talk) 05:53, 9 April 2021 (UTC) Then, why did you call it a "subpage"? You mean a versions page. Once we are hosting multiple versions (editions) of Hard Times, then we'll need a versions page. Until then, the single version can stay where it is and the list of other versions/editions should be on the Author: page. Generally, we prefer to avoid redlinks on the three types of disambiguation pages (disambiguation, versions, translations) . ”

“ CYGNIS INSIGNIS 07:00, 8 April 2021 (UTC) I don't think the effort is worth the result in practice, but I'll still note that there is definitely some value to transcribing any text content. Much like transcribing old movies and posters etc., the transcription makes it searchable and possible to access for people with vision impairment. But I think we'd need better tooling to make the cost—benefit add up. Our current tooling doesn't make the comics format easy to work with, and won't let us present the results in a useful way without massive manual effort. ”

“ I think we should create disambiguation pages for all examples of these, because 3 people on all of planet Earth might not know how to read a table of contents, or go to a subpage manually, or go to Special:WhatLinksHere, or any other DEFINITELY less useful methods than that for getting to the fourth chapter of a book.
It should be pretty easy for people to scroll through the entire page to find what they're looking for, even if they can't use CTRL F. People with slow connections definitely won't have to wait for the page to load for very long at all. ”

“ Usually a success is the validation of a work, so we pick a work that we expect could be completed in the time of one month. But not always: we have picked more challenging works when there was a clear plan, such as the huge book of Scottish songs we did, where we tackled a complex work and taught advanced editing technique to participants. ”

“ But if someone were to throw resources at an VisualEditor-type editor for comics pages, and a dedicated comics viewer in MediaWiki, I would certainly be all for it. With sufficiently fancy tooling, comics would be easier to do up than books and periodicals, and we could have a sizeable library of them in relatively short order. ”

“ We don't disambiguate works until there is the need. When there is the need then we do it. There being multiple editions is not a need, use the author page, though for Dicken's works I would think that there are dozens of editions of many of his works, and not a lot of value in simply edition listing unless there is true value. — billinghurst sDrewth 14:20, 10 April 2021 (UTC) I'm not listing every edition that has ever been printed. Only the editions that Charles Dickens directly contributed to as identified in the Clarendon Dickens. ”

“ Languageseeker (talk) 02:29, 7 April 2021 (UTC) the issue is we have a consensus to migrate non-scanned backed to scan-backed, and we have perpetual proposals to change that consensus without success. low quality work does not detract from high quality work. increasing the scrap rate does not improve the process. if you want to top-down dictate the process of transcription go over to German wikisource. that's how they act over there, and we are leaving them in the dust. we are increasing proofread pages at a higher rate. ”

“ Changing the values of wgLearnerEdits and wgLearnerMemberSince is just a config change. I kinda feel that 10 edits is on the low side for a learner, because you can blow though 10 edits in no time in the page NS at WS and then you'll drop off the "newcomer" radar (if you don't have a brand new account) and become a "learner" (which lumps you in with users right up to the 500 edit mark) . Inductiveload—talk/contribs 15:22, 4 April 2021 (UTC) I founded the task T279258. ”

“ I'm not entirely surprised because many users have trouble understanding that a particular edition of an out-of-copyright work can in copyright. The WMF has a duty to protect itself from lawsuit. This is one of the problems with non-scan backed works that this community is going to have to accept. Languageseeker (talk) 00:15, 15 April 2021 (UTC) I have started a copyright discussion here. PseudoSkull (talk) 01:09, 15 April 2021 (UTC) Of more immediate concern is to determine the status of the other works uploaded by User:Rcrowley7 at around that time. ”

“ Versions page seem to be fairly standard around here even when there are not other proofread edition. I'm trying to create the same for Charles Dickens. The standard practice seems to be to make the Title page the version page. For Charles Dickens, it seems that Wikisource is adopting a different approach. I'm trying to make Charles Dickens follow the same guidelines as other pages. What makes Charles Dickens different from someone like William Shakespeare? Languageseeker (talk) 14:13, 10 April 2021 (UTC) @Languageseeker: Shakespeare is an exception in nearly every context ”

“ Could we not copy a better working script from another Wiki? — Ineuw (talk) 13:36, 20 April 2021 (UTC) @Ineuw: This is the same script that has been copied between wikis. It hasn't really been actively maintained since 2015 (and the same goes for the server backend) , so it has a lot of half-a-decade old technical assumptions. That it's starting to fail as web browsers and MediaWiki continue to change is not really unexpected. ”

“ The challenge in selecting a work (as Cygnis insignis says) is to find one that is interesting. The "shrug, whatever" reaction to a selection is usually because the work doesn't appeal. We've also learnt over the years to avoid works with complex formatting. They simply don't work as collaborations, and aren't useful for teaching new editors. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 20:22, 23 April 2021 (UTC) Comment In the beginning it was sitting beside a range of OF THE (TIMEFRAME) components, though that was pretty well prior to us having a truly functioning proofread page system. ”

“ I was hoping to save them the bother but it seems I made it worse :S —Beleg Tâl (talk) 01:20, 13 April 2021 (UTC) The issue isn't Shakespeare's importance (although that factor might also be relevant to a discussion of how to handle it) ; it's the more practical issue that in the world at large there are a massive (massive!) number of works by Shakespeare (due to all the editions) and works about Shakespeare and works that refer to Shakespeare; and the same applies for works that are in scope for Wikisource; and the disproportion only gets greater for works actually currently on Wikisource. ”

“ Speaking of enWP, they have a bot that checks for links to DAB pages, which might be a good idea for us -- this is far from the only DAB page in which one item is notable and the others are nobodies. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 01:22, 13 April 2021 (UTC) Looks like the worst offenders are case disambiguation pages —Beleg Tâl (talk) 03:13, 13 April 2021 (UTC) If you are expecting there to be pros and cons, and a possible exception, then why did you start the process before making an announcement or seeking feedback? ”

“ You may also wish to consider that when you force a situation to be "clear black and white" you also preclude the possibility of nuance and compromise (i.e. it is effectively a scorched earth tactic) . But, hey, congratulations on your win... --Xover (talk) 06:32, 13 April 2021 (UTC) Style issue across the site I have seen several instances of hyphens that are used in places where en dashes should be. ”

“ Neither Oliver Twist versions nor Oliver Twist (Charles Dickens Edition) should exist (and will be deleted as soon as the information in them have been verified to be preserved on a suitable page) . The information currently in them belong on Author:Charles Dickens, or possibly on a Portal: of some stripe if the inclusion criteria or organisation conflicts with the goals of an Author: page. ”

“ Why do we have a POTM? How are the works selected? Is it working? How does Wikisource define success when it comes to POTM? Languageseeker (talk) 15:22, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
Not sure why, something about collaboration and getting new users involved. There is also a badge. The selection of interesting and important works would see more contributions, from me at least. CYGNIS INSIGNIS 16:37, 23 April 2021 (UTC) There isn't a single goal. ”

“ In addition to Project Gutenberg imports, this site has many abandoned transcription project without scans from its early days. I propose flagging them all deletion and automatically removing them after three months if nobody has merged-or-split them to a scan, Languageseeker (talk) 12:36, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
@Languageseeker: I'm not sure I'm on board with deletion on any kind of short-in-WS-terms horizon (i.e. less than years) , because with the resources we have, that's certain death for most of them, and they're not quite zero value IMO (at least not the complete ones) . ”

“ There will be lots of overlap with works that already use {{Project Gutenberg}} as well as works that are now transcluded. It'll take some time for the category to fill on the server side. Inductiveload—talk/contribs 14:10, 6 April 2021 (UTC) We don't even have a hard requirement that new works be scan-backed, so, no, deleting non-scan-backed works (including PG) is premature. Focus your efforts on proofreading high quality scan-backed versions of such works instead. ”

“ The aim of this filter is to filter out the very new accounts where there is quite a high probability to meet a single-use vandal account. Accounts surviving 4 days and a certain number of edits without being blocked can be usually considered serious users learning to contribute. --Jan Kameníček (talk) 17:50, 4 April 2021 (UTC) Offer of a proofread text There is some offer to use a proofread text at Index talk:The Commentaries of the Emperor Marcus Antoninus.pdf, which was written there by the same contributor who founded the Index page. ”

“ Dickens to put in some planning first, or you may find that everything has to be changed twice. That said, the works of Dickens are long overdue for cleanup, and I heartily welcome such cleanup. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:37, 12 April 2021 (UTC) Template: Periodical header, not-actually-orphaned pages, etc. The {{header periodical}} template seems to link pages in a way that is not detected by the "what links here" function. This, in turn, has resulted in users tagging the articles as "orphaned" when they are not. ”

“ It's not quite at the point where I'm canvassing general opinion on it (I will, but not just yet) , but if anyone has smart CSS ideas, I'm all ears :-) Inductiveload—talk/contribs 08:51, 7 April 2021 (UTC) Rotated pages in PDF Is there a fix for this PDF? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing) ; Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:30, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
@Pigsonthewing: File:Boy Scouts and What They Do.djvu. Split with Scan Tailor and then OCRed and DjVuified with a disgusting script that I will one day clean up and post somewhere! ”

“ Noting that the page can be variable depending on one's preferences. — billinghurst sDrewth 00:55, 4 April 2021 (UTC) Oh new editors' contribs https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&userExpLevel=newcomer;learner&hidebots=1&hidecategorization=1&hideWikibase=1 Hmm, not certain how much control we have there mw:Release_notes/1.34#New user-facing features in 1.34, definitely not something I have explored. — billinghurst sDrewth 00:59, 4 April 2021 (UTC) @Billinghurst: Yes, that’s it (only you have added Learners there too and so it shows more) . ”