“ Wikisource contributors are not authorities, or editors, that happens elsewhere. I've posed a number of questions on this matter, the answer generally being 'it's useful', but Thomas' is unanswerable. A validated text is often locked, the authority for 'obvious' and 'useful' annotations, links, sic templates and so on could only be changed by an admin, or lobbying one for change. For the record, admins here frequently make erroneous 'corrections'. If our readers are so inept, illiterate, or incapable of processing a typo, do we want them adding what they reckon to the documents. ”

“ From your point of view your long-term goal should obviously be to convince everyone that annotations don't belong on WS at all, but in the meantime, this idea may enable both sides to be happier than they are now. The point about validated pages being locked is a good one, but lately locking pages has been rare, and usually the page namespace hasn't been locked above the autoconfirmed level. ”

“ It is a javascript/ajax gadget that calls a server running on the toolserver. But this OCR uses Tesseract, and I don't think it works in hebrew. In any case, this button method is completely deprecated; it is much much better to work a djvu file that has an ocr text layer. When it is edited for the first time, a page from a djvu file is preloaded with the OCR text layer of the djvu. This allows you to do the ocr with whatever tool you have. So, the procedure is 1. do the ocr of your book. 2 create a djvu file from the pdf, with the ocr text inside 3 upload it to commons. ”

“ I was more trying to reflect that when we make a change that affects the community in conjunction with the way that we do things, that we should be explicit in the information provided and that we wave under the noses of the natives, not leave it as implicit. We need the broadest understanding, not for the select who are positively paying attention, especially when we all have life interrupting our WS realities. ”

“ While I can see how having page scans can help in terms of preventing vandalism, putting this as a primary goal is exactly what I saw as paranoid in my earlier responses to Pathoschild. It is also based on a general assumption of bad faith on the part of people who just come to add in their favorite material. Most people do not attempt to add wilfully deceptive materials ”

“ TeX is a sophisticated program to produce high-quality typesetting, especially for mathematical text. LaTeX adds to TeX a collection of commands that simplify typesetting by letting the user concentrate on structure of the text rather than formatting commands. ”

“ I'm as frustrated as anyone that we have to resort to am embarrassing table hack to implement this. But I think it is a mistake to pretend that we don't need something just because we can't implement it elegantly. ”

“ Users changing words to ones they recognise, changing every page number because they were looking at a different edition. An actual error is sometimes significant, and no one can anticipate whether that is important - we shouldn't be judging that, not our role here.The only explicit guideline is at Wikisource:Annotations, it requires the User is to make a separate version, leaving a 'clean text', but these changes are made to the Page:namespace now - difficult. ”

“ Do you know if local wikisources can change at any Mediawiki (I didn't find them!) the words "toggle noinclude sections visibility" (tooltip of "+" toggle button) , "Page status" (in a page being edited) , "problematic, not proofread, proofread" (autotext when checkbox pressed) , "{{PageQuality|3|}}" (auto-noinclude-text; local wikisources can have built PageQuality template before this autotext, so now it must be adapted; it would be a good idea to announce at wikisource-list or local scriptoriums these advancements [wikisource news by Pathoschild is not updated anymore :o ( ] ) ?. ”

“ Would it be possible to give the "source" tab on pages with transcluded pages an ID attribute. Perhaps "ca-source"? This will make code that looks for the source tab more robust. Thanks Inductiveload—talk/contribs 02:46, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
Do "Bad Things" happen if you allow "normal" pages to have layouts? I've been looking though the code for PP, and it seems to me that the Dynamic Layouts can be applied to any page, not just those with page numbers or transclusions. This way, any page can have custom styling applied. ”

“ I have no opposition to using multiple "page" tags if they are independent from each other. What we want to avoid is situations where you open a div in the first call and close it in the second one. ThomasV (talk) 05:39, 25 June 2010 (UTC) How then do you propose to handle the case of a block level format that spans a non-continuous page jump? Suppose an article starts on page 5, continues on page 20, and the page break happens in the middle of a long quotation that is rendered in smaller text. It seems like the only option is not to use the pages tag at all. ”

“ The most common case is where a table has been used to center a block of text, e.g. Page:William Blake, a critical essay (Swinburne) .djvu/191 and Page:William Blake, a critical essay (Swinburne) .djvu/192. But, leaving aside objections to using a table at all in this context, this is not very interesting because a new row doesn't begin at the page break. What I'm interested in is (a) whether concatenating the refs with a space will break table syntax by causing the "|-" no longer to occur at the start of a line; (b) whether concatenating them with a carriage return will fix that problem ”

“ I agree it's not pretty... it especially won't be pretty when a work starts in the second column (the first column's page number will appear instead) . Better than nothing, at least, until we find something else. I found Help:DjVu_files/other_pages#double_pages_in_djvu, where there's discussion about image splitting. Not sure if that makes sense... —Spangineer (háblame) 21:23, 19 January 2011 (UTC) Well the template needs to be tweaked and optimized (probably could use a proper anchor in the Page: namespace that won't transclude to the mainspace) . ”

“ I am not saying that it is your responsibility, more that as the person making the changes it that helps when you at least nag other people so we can as community get the message out there. For late Sep through to the past week, my brain has had plenty of other distractions, and has had to have some throttling on issues, and global formatting was one that didn't get its full attention.Amen Cyg, I do really appreciate ThomasV's work and his provided application. Sometimes we do the doing and are remiss on managing the implications and the associated messages. ”

“ There is much work that can be done effectively offline with a rather good text application. In the meantime, I suggest you again to use widely the Talk page of Index to give some good suggestion about general style of the work. --Alex brollo 19:19, 5 July 2008 (UTC) error in template:option The javascript for template:option is causing an error (I verified in FireFox) , which was discussed in scriptorium#Bottom-headers, cont. I've commented that code out until a fix can be found. thanks Steve Sanbeg 18:39, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
move fix Thanks for that move fix. ”

“ Shall we fix typos? Please excuse my basic and poor French, but you may send me messages in French for my reading practice. My French writing and speaking are much poorer, but I can read simple French. Merci beaucoup pour votre conseil.--Jusjih 10:18, 31 December 2005 (UTC) I just added a message at Wikisource:Scriptorium#Articles.2C_project_pages.2C_and_United_Nations_resolutions about whether the index page of the United Nations Security Council Resolutions should be an "article" not prefixing "Wikisource:" or a "project page" prefixing "Wikisource:". ”

“ For much the same reason I think it is also almost always true that it is only the last footnote on a page that has the potential to overflow. So I would agree that providing the originating page number unambiguously identifies the footnote to follow on from. But still I share Thomas's concern about making too many assumptions. It think it better to rely on named parameters, even if means we have to be a bit careful. Hesperian 12:23, 12 August 2010 (UTC) Quirky page numbering Gday. Something quirky happens with with <div class=lefttext> and {{float center}} (a centred-table) as per this edit. ”

“ Page numbers are rendered well under IE at the french Wikisource. this is probably caused by a bug in this site’s local javascript. ThomasV (talk) 14:55, 21 October 2010 (UTC) I found one bug in Common.js that causes IE to fail ; after fixing it, page numbers are sometimes displayed ; they show up after I reload the page with F5, but not if I access the page directly. This is not the case at fr.ws : they are always rendered. This makes me think that there is another bug, but I did not find it. In the future I plan to move this script into the core of the extension ”

“ Basic index edit page Hi,
I would like to be able to copy Index: pages. For example, I would like to be able to copy the code from Index:The_Perth_Gazette_and_Western_Australian_Journal_1 (3) .djvu, and paste it to Index:The_Perth_Gazette_and_Western_Australian_Journal_1 (4) .djvu, Index:The_Perth_Gazette_and_Western_Australian_Journal_1 (5) .djvu, Index:The_Perth_Gazette_and_Western_Australian_Journal_1 (6) .djvu, Index:The_Perth_Gazette_and_Western_Australian_Journal_1 (7) .djvu, etc; making only tiny changes each time. ”

“ The pages load much quicker and there is a discernible speed increase of my vector.js toolbar but still not like it used to be. - Ineuw (talk) 15:49, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
Mediawiki SVN installation errors Hi Thomas. I didn't forget about the SVN install, but realized that attending to the PSM authors' list was crucial and it took precedence over everything. I made the first attempt of the SVN version of the Wikimedia software, which generated a bunch of errors which I posted here User:Ineuw/Error messages. ”

“ Thinking further ahead, maybe we can improve mw:Extension:ScanSet to act like a DJVU file. i.e. if we create a dummy [ [Image:EB1911_tiff.scanset] ] and it understands [ [Image:EB1911_tiff.scanset/Vol15/EC5A664] ] (and converts the TIFF to PNG) . John Vandenberg 01:35, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
i would prefer the second option, because tiff suport is not widespread. also, a scanset is naturally ordered, which means that no index page is needed to create navigation buttons (like in pdf/djvu files) . ”