“ I don't agree that an intro shouldn't contain 'information' about a source. Using the example of speeches a speech intro needs to contain the author, any position the author held at the time which is relevant (EG Prime Minister) , where and when it was given & the subject of the speech. We also try to either give a wikipedia link or a brief bit of info on if the subject is obscure. ”

“ There will be users who would like to design something specific for a particular text, without being forced to get community permission to change a template used throughout most of the library. If the alternative is a quality one, should we really forbid it? ”

“ I don't think we really need to say "—Excerpt from XXXX on the free online encyclopedia Wikipedia. " for all of our texts (or even any) as most won't have an exert from wikipedia & in any event we should be able to write some intro just from the source (& the publication/author/etc info we already have) where we need one. I don't know whether we need the title of the text in the box header as we have it as the page title anyway, unless there are some texts for which this would differ - but I can't think of any offhand. On colours I don't have a preference. ”

“ A more experienced user could then find the text through the new-text category, categorise and format it correctly, update the lists, create the author page, or add a specific problem template (ie, {{AuthorPageNeeded}} or some such) . I'd also suggest moving the author pages and author lists to category pages; for example, the list of A-authors could be on the category page for A-authors, and the Shakespeare page could be in the Shakespeare category. This would make it easier to compare the manual list to the automatic list, since they'd both be on the same page. ”

“ Other viewpoints/concerns are a great thing, since it helps us think things through. I, too, had taken it to be just a strong suggestion, something that users don't have to follow (and what will likely be the case is anyone who RC patrolling will add it themselves) , but would be encouraged to do. Because you're right, there will always be that "one" text that doesn't fit anything and wouldn't work with the header. And then such projects as EB1911 WikiProject would look terrible! ”

“ I think the process being described here is wonderful, useful, and could also help increase the overall popularity of Wikisource among new users. It is an important idea that should be pushed.
Nevertheless - and I hesitate to write this given the strong support above - I think it would much better be standarized through action, adding the template text by text, rather than enforced as a rule:
There will always be unusual texts or especially complicated texts for which the templates above are not the best solution. ”

“ Comment This is a good idea, since writing for WS is more complex than working on WP. New documents should ideally always be accompanied by various navigation aids, but new users, (and some old ones, namely me) sometimes have problems locating the templates. Work has been started by various people at codifying templates and agreeing designs so we will have consistency across the site in terms of information and colour schemes. ”

“ I might add that my day job is a freelance publishers' editor, as well as a writer, so I feel stongly about such things, for different design conventions and colours make the whole site look scrappy, and dare I suggest it, not very professional. ”

“ Altough in works with formatted title pages we will probably be stuck with the repitition. The notes that are part of the text should reproduced how they appeared in the original if we can find out. I feel besides that we need a style for short notes (a sentance or two) and long notes (a paragraph or more) and I dislike boxing up the short ones. It makes them seem more important than they are. --BirgitteSB 16:01, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
As the notes template reads, is does not distinguish between a note or comment actually printed with the poem and one we have added as Wikisource editors. ”

“ I think that it does not matter which approach new users find most simple: For a host of reasons more experienced users need to check all articles as they are created. Adding a template or an info box where it is omitted would be just part of that process. Similarly, in my opinion, every source here should have an associated wikipedia article even if that article is only a redirect to a more general article. —Theo (Talk) 13:31, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
Theoclarke brings up a good point ”

“ I think the layout look great! Will it also be able to mention the translator on single page articles where appropriate? What do you think of an article like Gettysburg Address which is mulitple versions and notes on a single page? Regarding the colour scheme check out Wikisource talk:Template messages and Wikisource talk:Template messages/Sandbox for an on going dicussion. --BirgitteSB 16:07, 21 January 2006 (UTC) Layout is fine, but several admins, User:BirgitteSB, User:AllanHainey, User:GregRobson, etc, have all been active in the past couple of months thinking about this. ”